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Dj Mag top 100 Dj's. Your thoughts (pg. 3)
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| Armitage350 |
"Amsterdam-based RAM has always found ways to demonstrate his all-round passion for Electronic Dance Music. Under his new pseudonym Gecko he will release innovative, fusion-styled productions. His first track 'Dizko'"
I guess "Fusion Style Productions" isn't a genre? |
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| Neonbeats |
| quote: | Originally posted by AY STAR
guy i dunno if you are just a troll,armin's foreskin or just a clueless twit but you make no sense at all.
i cant even have a decent convo with you after reading statements like this lol
fact number 1:
it's guys like him who made trance irrelevant nowadays and gave it a bad name
fact number 2: on his live set's not his radio show iam talking about his live sets he dont support nothing underground. he plays the same bull top 25 songs in rotation
fact number 3: armin underground? ha ha ha that alone right there show's alot about what you know
imo it should never be about a dj poll but nowadays it does mean alot when it comes to clubs booking a dj. perfect example is guys like joof or solarstone. brilliant brillant dj's but yet they cant get a booking in nyc or even the states really
the whole thing is a joke i def agree about that, but dont come on here and say armin is great and is a good trance dj
guy is a blowjob and a hack, he should just do what tiesto did and announce he dont play trance no more instead of giving it a bad name if and anyone who knows me personally, they know i would have no problem telling this to armin or his trance family right in their faces |
I don't even listen to trance bro, you sound like a butthurt chin scratcher full of conspiracy theories.
#1) that's bull. What's keeping people from liking your "true" trance djs? Nothing. Armin even supports those djs. Are you saying trance would be bigger without Armin, Asot and his Asot parties he throws? Really doubt it bro.
#2) sorry, this is what the masses want to hear at his parties. It's his job to play to his crowd. People obviously must like what he plays to vote for him in this poll. You might not like it, so I hope you support parties like the one Eco had last night.
#3) work on your reading comprehention, I said compared to guys like guetta or avicii. Everyone knows them and their tracks. Not everyone knows Armin and most people have no clue what tracks he plays.
I'm sure Armin would be heartbroken if you told him he's a hack. |
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| jashic |
Everyone in the top 100 got there because they play what people like to hear. What the masses want to hear are things that are popular or what they know. DJ's used to be about taking you on a journey to a place you haven't been. But once the mainstream latches onto a genre like it has EDM, it converts it to taking you on a journey that you know already is fun.
So, in top down order of the top 100, the top plays the most pop music. Armin being on top isn't really about how underground he is or how "true" to his sound he is, it's about how much pop music Armin plays and how he plays it. Of course HOW he plays it is a big factor but lets not kid ourselves and say he isn't playing pop music. It's a popularity contest and when it comes to a commercialized poll such as the dj mag top 100, it's all the same as the billboard top 100 R&B/hip-hop category.
So all of you saying that armin helped the scene get where it is and the others who say he sold out...well, its true. He helped the scene get mainstream and he did sell out. He has a long history in the underground but to call him that today is just plain stupid since the poll itself says otherwise. |
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| a.l.d.i. |
this conversation is reduntant. it has been explained many times. Dj top 100 is suppose to be about talented djs not fame. if madona , rhyana ,justing bieber and snookie were allowed (or rather choose/campaign)to be in this poll they will blow eveyone away and become top 20. now, all of you take a minute now and realize how relevant your convo is. we are not attacking the success of people here in this list, we are just frustrated that they are allowed to be in the poll. Great producer =/= great djing. Top 100 djs is suppose to list the djs that have the most talent sets. djs that come and blow you away.
i mean for crying outloud daft punk is at number 44. WOW they must be some great dj touring all over the world to gain that spot :rolleyes:
So, no. we can't let you talk that bull here. get educated or prepare your annus! |
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| Zack Roth |
| quote: | Originally posted by a.l.d.i.
Dj top 100 is suppose to be about talented djs not fame. Top 100 djs is suppose to list the djs that have the most talent sets. djs that come and blow you away.
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Actually, that's not true.
DJ Mag's poll is not about talent at all. They don't claim to crown the most talented DJ in the world. All they do is give people a platform to vote for their own favorites.
Year after year, people freak out over who wins, and where their own favorite DJs place in the rankings. I don't get it.
DJ Mag does not run a talent contest....they simply run a popularity contest. If Armin is the #1 DJ, it only means that more people voted for him this year than any other DJ. It has nothing to do with him being the best or most talented. |
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| AY STAR |
| quote: | Originally posted by Neonbeats
I don't even listen to trance |
you basically summed it all up right there, but yet you wanna try and sit here and argue with me on what armin plays? lol
no sense at all. you failed to prove your intelegence on the subject several times over.
to go back and forth and argue with you is a waste of time, iam gonna be the bigger person and walk away
have fun at lavo at armin's celebration party. maybe he will sign your shirt |
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| ramsau |
| Jesus.. Some of you take music and what other people listen way too seriously. |
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| jashic |
It's inevitable it turns out this way. It's like this:
You were playing a genre to underground masses for $5k a night for a 12 hour set for the last 10 years. Then one day, your genre blows up and its being played on the radio all the time. now gigs are paying $50,000 a night for a TWO hour set but only if you play whats being played on the radio all the time. It sounds kinda similar to your sound. It's close enough that you still somewhat like it. So yeah, you take the gigs at $50k and spin only 2 hours.
Everyone on this board would do the same exact thing. |
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| a.l.d.i. |
| of course.. most of us would.. how is this explanatory to whats going on here. i think we all understand what selling out means. |
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| a.l.d.i. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zack Roth
Actually, that's not true.
DJ Mag's poll is not about talent at all. They don't claim to crown the most talented DJ in the world. All they do is give people a platform to vote for their own favorites.
Year after year, people freak out over who wins, and where their own favorite DJs place in the rankings. I don't get it.
DJ Mag does not run a talent contest....they simply run a popularity contest. If Armin is the #1 DJ, it only means that more people voted for him this year than any other DJ. It has nothing to do with him being the best or most talented. |
You are right, because i can not prove my statement with citation that do indicate the true purpose of the poll. At the same account, neither does your statement hold true. if we were to seek out for these citations. But as life experience we have formed our own opinions towards the poll, by our judgement and people hear-says. Just like a typical business, that poll has adapted with years to attract more and more costumers. yes at the begging they only recognized talent. at first they were different from top hits billiards charts. i remember the joy of opening and reading that magazine! It was my information into what was cool and underground. and yes i know that saying underground comes of as like saying a "hipster" now. But not my underground. Underground for me has always hold to the only mean. staying true to the music and not sell out to the demand on what is popular. if we look back at the history, which i can't say i cared to pay attention a lot back then, i think djmax sold to some label or a higher magazine that was controlled by some major labels. and that was the end of it. Those owners did not understand their costumers (us), so they switch things around and started getting attention of different groups. soon it is not about how good you are but who you know. which was still bearable until EDM blew up so big that it is about who people can recognize.
djs mag, at the cost of getting "Facebook" likes has allowed anyone, who is anyone to just come and click a vote. it is not about people who love this music so much and want to express their admiration by voting for the artist. it has turned about people who have no clue but they just want to vote for avici because he made levels, and he is asking them to vote. They come and vote about the most recent artist they can think of and leave. The only rule of making that list is how good your marketing is.
So , no , i will stick to my statement and say it all gone to s. |
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| a.l.d.i. |
| quote: | Originally posted by ramsau
Jesus.. Some of you take music and what other people listen way too seriously. |
wow.. only wish i could have your wisdom! So insightful! |
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| ramsau |
| quote: | Originally posted by a.l.d.i.
wow.. only wish i could have your wisdom! So insightful! |
Instead of using low level sarcasm, tell me why some people are doing two things at the same time: 1) complaining that artists that they like are not succeeding in these kinds of polls (especially this poll in question) and 2) complaining how the artists that are succeeding are sellouts and well, basically, .
It has always sparked a little smile to my face when I notice people complaining about how an artist they like is not popular and recognized and at the same time that person is against all artists that are popular, sellouts and mainstream.
I have already said that these kinds of polls could use some sort of meritocratic system, but that probably isn't as profitable as the system they are using now. |
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