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Oh no not the Pope! (pg. 3)
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OrangestO
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Seandroid
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Just as an FYI; all the flashy/valuable stuff the pope ends up getting are gifts, none of that is purchased by the Vatican. Moreover, under Roman law the pontif can neither refuse nor liquidate such gifts.


Exactly, funded by deception and indoctrination. Willingly, but still the case. People give those gifts because they think they'll get something out of it on a "spiritual" level. Really, they give those gifts because they're selfish.
srussell0018
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Originally posted by OrangestO
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perfect :stongue:
srussell0018
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Originally posted by Seandroid
Exactly, funded by deception and indoctrination. Willingly, but still the case. People give those gifts because they think they'll get something out of it on a "spiritual" level. Really, they give those gifts because they're selfish.


Wouldn't you give a gift to the leader of the holy fagolic church?
Seandroid
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Originally posted by srussell0018
Wouldn't you give a gift to the leader of the holy fagolic church?


He's already fabulous.
Zharen
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Originally posted by srussell0018

Maybe they could choose some dumbass 18 year old from Australia though. They seem to know what's best.


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Lira
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
As for the Pope resigning, I view it very dimly. I'm not a huge fan of this pope; however, if one beliefs the doctrine then being the pope is a vocation that is above all others and one that necessitates a great deal of suffering and personal sacrafice. Deciding that he no longer has the strength to continue is essentially stating that he values himself (health, lifestyle, longevity, freedom, legacy, etc) over the vocation he must believe he was assigned by God (again, assuming the pope believes the doctrine). This would seem to be a rather arrogan, self-centred, wrongheaded and, to me as a Catholic, insulting decision on his part. All that said, I'm reasonably certain that we are not being given the full story here.

Actually, it may have been a good move on his part. The previous Pope, charismatic though he was, may have been unable to take care of the church properly during his last years, as his health deteriorated. Having been there for him at all times, Ratzinger clearly knows what it looks on the inside when that happens, and decided to sacrifice himself for the Church.

I'm just culturally Catholic, and although I'm well acquainted with the doctrine, I'm perhaps a bit too pragmatic about it... but, thus far, Andrew Brown's take on the Pope's resignation seems to be the one that makes the most sense to me as a curious outsider. What do you think?
paulversuspaul
I cant believe the myth of Tebow has spread across the Atlantic, wtf?
Moongoose
Oh goodie god gets to do a do over. It only took the all knowing all powerful sky fairy the better part of a decade to figure out that maybe perhaps a darth sidious lookalike that used to cover for child raping priests was not the ideal head of an organisation with a historically dodgy, currently bad and ever worsening image problem.



It literally could only be worse if both the man and the dodgy organisation could somehow be tied to hitler and oh look they can be and quite easily at that.
srussell0018
Oh look, an atheist thread already.

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