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Oh no not the Pope! (pg. 4)
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| wienerschnitzel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
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LOL /thread |
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| kamil |
| Ding, dong, the witch is gone! :) |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
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not enough smilies to do this justice :stongue: |
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| Jon_Snow |
His resignation letter was leaked.
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| Lira |
| Actually, they read his resignation letter (or paraphrased it, I can't remember) on national television here. It was very brief and straight to the point. I wish he was younger though, so he could've just said something like "lol cya" :p |
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| Blake |
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| Lagrangian |
| I'm glad I'm Agnostic. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seandroid
Exactly, funded by deception and indoctrination. Willingly, but still the case. People give those gifts because they think they'll get something out of it on a "spiritual" level. Really, they give those gifts because they're selfish. |
I'm guessing that for the most part those gifts are motivated by purely earthly concerns. Chances are whoever in the marketing department of Parada decided to give the pope some stylin' shades was they were guided more by promoting their brand then over concerns regarding their soul. I know that when my sister in law gave the Dhali Lama a BlackBerry it had nothing to do with spirituality. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Actually, it may have been a good move on his part. The previous Pope, charismatic though he was, may have been unable to take care of the church properly during his last years, as his health deteriorated. Having been there for him at all times, Ratzinger clearly knows what it looks on the inside when that happens, and decided to sacrifice himself for the Church.
I'm just culturally Catholic, and although I'm well acquainted with the doctrine, I'm perhaps a bit too pragmatic about it... but, thus far, Andrew Brown's take on the Pope's resignation seems to be the one that makes the most sense to me as a curious outsider. What do you think? |
I don't doubt that the Pope's experience in the last few years of JPII's pontificate influenced his decision. Cardinal Ratzinger was vocal at that time that Popes can and should resign if unable to lead in the same manner they could when given the vocation. It really isn't a surprised that Benedict considered resignation to be an option. Given the political and dare I say marketing aspects of the vocation it is a pragmatic decision; however, the Papalcy is not about pragmatism; rather, it is about leadership. Yes, one can lead by giving addresses to the faithful all around the world but one can also lead by showing grace and service through illness and sacraficing oneself in order to live out the vocation they have been granted and chose. It is very common for newly elected popes to break down in tears as they await their assention, not because of joy but because of fear at the aweful responsibility they are about to undertake. JPII's view was that continuing to serve despite and throughout his suffering was an testement to serving God and man without regard to self. I suppose I fall more in-line with JPII's thinking on this, as I view Benedict's decision to be an election of self over service to the church. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
as I view Benedict's decision to be an election of self over service to the church. |
you cunt :D |
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