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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
My post had nothing to do with being "unsurprised and unimpressed". :stongue: You were talking about people here, and I pointed out that there's really nothing worth talking about. I disagreed with your post, but I was neither "unsurprised [nor] unimpressed". It's as simple as that.
Not to mention that we've already been over this (*cough*brokenrecord*cough*) in Music Discussion, and you didn't seem to argue with me when I pointed out that I actually am surprised and impressed by a lot of music and that I actually do post constructively. Quit acting so butthurt about the fact that I go "Meh" in threads about music that you like. If it will make you feel any better, I'd be delighted to make a few threads in MD and watch people hate on them, because I couldn't care less if someone doesn't like what I like. |
I'm sure you thought that was a valid refutation, but actually you were merely flailing around in the dark. I know you like a lot of music and I can't remember a single time you've dismissed anything I actually like. It's more to do with your endless habit, which has been going on for about six years now, of responding to any thread or post where someone gets angry, surprised or excited about some controversy or note-worthy event with a regurgitated post to the effect of "I am completely unsurprised by this, it happens all the time, what did you expect?" You don't even seem to realise you're doing it so it's probably subconscious, but it's pretty laughable nonetheless, especially because you always do it about music or artists you obviously don't follow in the slightest, and thus it just comes across as someone trying very hard to appear world-weary and all-knowing. And don't even bother with the obligatory "Yeah, okay [barrage of smileys]" response, because nothing you say will change my perception of a six-year behavioural streak.
As for this thread, it's somewhat bizarre of you to condemn me for "talking ", given I'm not even exaggerating. Every time someone posts a photo in the Pictures thread there's a three page debate about cufflinks, and any discussion of food leads to a breakout of people talking about they only eat organic, locally-sourced produce hand-picked by free-range Native American spirit guides. If it's "talking " to point out the behaviour that people openly commit then cry me a six figure river.
More to the point, I find it amusingly noteworthy because yes, most people grow out of partying hard, but they can grow into many different kinds of people, and yet on this particular sub-forum everyone seems to have ended up in status-obsessed materialism land, where sniping at each other's salaries and showing off photos of new pads is the order of the day, behaviour that is amusingly incongruous with the free-spirited hedonism it's emerged from. If you don't find that noteworthy it's probably because you're completely entrenched in the same lifestyle, so pipe down and pass me the sea urchin ceviche. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
Long story short, the defendants legal team will relentlessly villianize you and frustrate the legal process until you either give up, settle for crumbs or go broke funding the legal process......
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Wal-Mart throwing a 1 million dollar check at someone who broke a limb or something from slipping on a fluid they should have cleaned up immediately would make their lawyers cream in their pants at how easily and affordably they could settle out of court. The cost of taking a case like that to court, appeals, etc. would cost them much more than any relatively meager out of court settlement. Wal-Mart makes 1 million dollars in about 10 minutes. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'm sure you thought that was a valid refutation, but actually you were merely flailing around in the dark. I know you like a lot of music and I can't remember a single time you've dismissed anything I actually like. It's more to do with your endless habit, which has been going on for about six years now, of responding to any thread or post where someone gets angry, surprised or excited about some controversy or note-worthy event with a regurgitated post to the effect of "I am completely unsurprised by this, it happens all the time, what did you expect?" You don't even seem to realise you're doing it so it's probably subconscious, but it's pretty laughable nonetheless, especially because you always do it about music or artists you obviously don't follow in the slightest, and thus it just comes across as someone trying very hard to appear world-weary and all-knowing. And don't even bother with the obligatory "Yeah, okay [barrage of smileys]" response, because nothing you say will change my perception of a six-year behavioural streak.
As for this thread, it's somewhat bizarre of you to condemn me for "talking ", given I'm not even exaggerating. Every time someone posts a photo in the Pictures thread there's a three page debate about cufflinks, and any discussion of food leads to a breakout of people talking about they only eat organic, locally-sourced produce hand-picked by free-range Native American spirit guides. If it's "talking " to point out the behaviour that people openly commit then cry me a six figure river.
More to the point, I find it amusingly noteworthy because yes, most people grow out of partying hard, but they can grow into many different kinds of people, and yet on this particular sub-forum everyone seems to have ended up in status-obsessed materialism land, where sniping at each other's salaries and showing off photos of new pads is the order of the day, behaviour that is amusingly incongruous with the free-spirited hedonism it's emerged from. If you don't find that noteworthy it's probably because you're completely entrenched in the same lifestyle, so pipe down and pass me the sea urchin ceviche. |
GET OFF MY LAWN!! |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Wal-Mart throwing a 1 million dollar check at someone who broke a limb or something from slipping on a fluid they should have cleaned up immediately would make their lawyers cream in their pants at how easily and affordably they could settle out of court. The cost of taking a case like that to court, appeals, etc. would cost them much more than any relatively meager out of court settlement. Wal-Mart makes 1 million dollars in about 10 minutes. |
The US legal system is also far more accepting of frivolous overvalued damage claims than the Canadian system.
Also of note, most large corporations maintain an in house legal team who are already on payroll so while they crank out more an more legal documents to slow down the process, it costs the company nothing above what they are already currently paying their legal staff. In our case (my company) we only go to outside counsel if the case is going to go to trial and our in house legal team does not have the proper trial experience in that particular area of practice. If we are going for a negotiated settlement, we will exclusively use our in house legal team. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
Also of note, most large corporations maintain an in house legal team who are already on payroll so while they crank out more an more legal documents to slow down the process, it costs the company nothing above what they are already currently paying their legal staff. In our case (my company) we only go to outside counsel if the case is going to go to trial and our in house legal team does not have the proper trial experience in that particular area of practice. If we are going for a negotiated settlement, we will exclusively use our in house legal team. |
Not always true. My brother works for "big law" in Manhattan, and essentially what the corporation will do is present their case to 3 or 4 different firms. The firms put together a presentation outlining their case, what they believe the outcome will be, and their estimated fees for their services. The company will then essentially have a blind auction to choose which firm they want representing them. It's a fairly common practice, and is used by huge corporations from giant pharm corporations to major retailers. That may not be the case for Wal-Mart, I really don't know, but saying "most" large corporations hold a legal team on retainer isn't really the case. It's cheaper for them to do it the other way.
Regardless, for one million dollars in a case where the company is clearly at fault, they would much rather swat him away with a minuscule payout (for them) than even bother going through the trouble of trying to lowball him or fight it out with his lawyers. A public defender could win that case.
About the Canadian vs. American point you brought up first. You have to factor in the cost of healthcare for Americans into that argument. Medical fees are obviously monumentally higher in the states, so often the law suits will get more money to cover medical fees and actual tangible costs rather than pain and suffering and other wank like that. |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Not always true. My brother works for "big law" in Manhattan, and essentially what the corporation will do is present their case to 3 or 4 different firms. The firms put together a presentation outlining their case, what they believe the outcome will be, and their estimated fees for their services. The company will then essentially have a blind auction to choose which firm they want representing them. It's a fairly common practice, and is used by huge corporations from giant pharm corporations to major retailers. That may not be the case for Wal-Mart, I really don't know, but saying "most" large corporations hold a legal team on retainer isn't really the case. It's cheaper for them to do it the other way. |
if the case is going to litigation, yes i completely agree. most large corporations do keep in house counsel as the need for legal advice and review is a constant requirement for larger firms. Maintaining an in house legal team is not the same as legal retainer services.
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Regardless, for one million dollars in a case where the company is clearly at fault, they would much rather swat him away with a minuscule payout (for them) than even bother going through the trouble of trying to lowball him or fight it out with his lawyers. A public defender could win that case. |
as mentioned earlier, when a company is using in house legal vs retained legal, the cost of frustrating the process is negligible as they are paying the in house legal staff regardless (salaried vs hourly billable). I just finished closing out a settlement last week with our legal dept over a pending lawsuit with a client where we were very clearly in the wrong but we still took 3 years to agree to a settlement which was far less than the value of the costs incurred by the other party.
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About the Canadian vs. American point you brought up first. You have to factor in the cost of healthcare for Americans into that argument. Medical fees are obviously monumentally higher in the states, so often the law suits will get more money to cover medical fees and actual tangible costs rather than pain and suffering and other wank like that. |
Agreed, however that is probably a better commentary on the unintended impacts of the american free market healthcare system then anything else..... |
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| idoru |
Firstly, for posterity's sake as well as the need to lighten things up a bit...
Yeah, okay. :stongue: :rolleyes:
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| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'm sure you thought that was a valid refutation, but actually you were merely flailing around in the dark. |
Yeah, it was half-assed. I was at work and half-assedly posted before having to finish up my break. Not my finest effort, but also nowhere near the first thing on my mind at that point.
| quote: | | I know you like a lot of music and I can't remember a single time you've dismissed anything I actually like. |
Neither can I, really. While we're on the subjcet, what you listen to (despite much of it not being my general cup of tea) is better than a lot of what gets posted around here.
| quote: | | It's more to do with your endless habit, which has been going on for about six years now, of responding to any thread or post where someone gets angry, surprised or excited about some controversy or note-worthy event with a regurgitated post to the effect of "I am completely unsurprised by this, it happens all the time, what did you expect?" |
I do have a habit of beating the idea of, "What, you guys are surprised?" to death, but typically only in a few kinds of threads. On the whole, the content of my posts over the past nine years has been more alongside the positive/constructive/goofing off side of things than criticisms. I will secede that there have been more of the "WTF, this shocks you!?" posts recently, but again that's typically because the threads are similar to threads I've said the same thing in in the past (anything involving Nou flamewars [esp. with Jenny], about North Korea, EDM poll threads and threads lamenting how pop-ish EDM is, are where I usually say that).
Not only that, but there was maybe a two year period recently where I wasn't posting all that much. I spent a lot of time away from the forums, and during that time I buried myself in a lot of music that I normally wouldn't listen to. As a result, my tastes have changed. One of the biggest things that I've noticed since I started poking my head around here again is that I feel an even bigger disconnect between what I find to be good music and what most people here seem to be into. I've never been one for making threads, so if I post in MD or anything about music discussion, I'm more than likely going to be responding to a thread about something that I'm just not into. Now, I can see how that would seem as though I'm "utterly unimpressed by anything, ever", but I'm not, and people who see what I post outside of TA would certainly be able to attest to that.
| quote: | | You don't even seem to realise you're doing it so it's probably subconscious... |
You'd think so, but see above and below.
| quote: | | ... but it's pretty laughable nonetheless, especially because you always do it about music or artists you obviously don't follow in the slightest,... |
If somebody posts a thread about a particular track or album, I don't form an opinion about it until I've heard the whole thing. If someone posts about an artist, unless I feel confident that I have heard the bulk of their body of work, or have a good idea of who they are as an artist, then I do my best to not criticize them too harshly. If my posts come off as anything but, then I've got some work to do.
| quote: | | ... and thus it just comes across as someone trying very hard to appear world-weary and all-knowing. |
I've never pretended to be either of those to anybody. Again, during my two year faux-hiatus from TA, I also went through a healthy period of personal growth. I often come off as somebody who is firmly set in their ways, confident about their opinion, unwilling to hear what somebody else has to say and totally against anything that is "popular" or anything but, as you put it, "world-weary and all-knowing". This couldn't be further from the truth, and has been something that I've been working on for the past few years. I'll give you that it may seem as though I think that I've got it all figured out and that I'm better than everybody else, but I'm not, nor do I hope to ever feel that way.
| quote: | | And don't even bother with the obligatory "Yeah, okay [barrage of smileys]" response... |
I trust that this is to your liking?
| quote: | | ... because nothing you say will change my perception of a six-year behavioural streak. |
And I certainly don't expect anything that I've said here to change your opinion even in the slightest. If I have been bothering you for the better part of six years, then I would highly recommend using the "Ignore" feature or simply skimming past my posts.
| quote: | As for this thread, it's somewhat bizarre of you to condemn me for "talking ", given I'm not even exaggerating. Every time someone posts a photo in the Pictures thread there's a three page debate about cufflinks, and any discussion of food leads to a breakout of people talking about they only eat organic, locally-sourced produce hand-picked by free-range Native American spirit guides. If it's "talking " to point out the behaviour that people openly commit then cry me a six figure river.
More to the point, I find it amusingly noteworthy because yes, most people grow out of partying hard, but they can grow into many different kinds of people, and yet on this particular sub-forum everyone seems to have ended up in status-obsessed materialism land, where sniping at each other's salaries and showing off photos of new pads is the order of the day, behaviour that is amusingly incongruous with the free-spirited hedonism it's emerged from. If you don't find that noteworthy it's probably because you're completely entrenched in the same lifestyle, so pipe down and pass me the sea urchin ceviche. |
When you put it that way, I absolutely agree with you. Your initial post seemed more shallow and "I'm trying to be an here" than that did, at least to me.
P.S. Dorsia's sea urchin ceviche was not worth what I had to do to get a table on Friday at last-minute's notice. :o |
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| Vector A |
| I can't believe that Bryce prefers Van Patten's card to mine. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
Dear humble and oh so noble Srussell,
You completely missed my point to orangesto (which doesn't really surprise me).
To purposely injure yourself (inferred by OP) and sue for big bucks deserves AT LEAST the response i gave.
And the purpose of posting my prior income was to show that; even with a lower to middle income salary + investments and retirement contribution; i was able to maintain a lower tax rate than the top earners.
So as inept as you are with your soft potato brain for comprehension; I've laid it out for you in a simple terms above. |
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| srussell0018 |
| And yet that simple potato brain still earns more money than you. Chew on that for awhile. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
And yet that simple potato brain makes still earns more money than you. Chew on that for awhile. |
And yet that simple potato brain will forever remain... just a potato brain. |
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