Originally posted by wayfinder
nothing wrong with enjoying the sound design part of making music.
Yeah +1
I might not agree with some of the above posts but uplifting kick making is a darkside power. I wish i can make kicks like john askew even with sampling and all my years of layering experience i don't get there but I would like to one day :)
Rodri Santos
if you want to have some control you can download kick presets for sylenth for example so you can have some control over it but most times i just pick a sample and treat it.
future_newbie
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Originally posted by Rodri Santos
if you want to have some control you can download kick presets for sylenth for example so you can have some control over it but most times i just pick a sample and treat it.
Kick presets for Sylenth1? Sorry, did I understand correctly what you wrote?
wayfinder
preposterous!!!
synthesizing your own kicks is actually quite fun
Rodri Santos
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Originally posted by future_newbie
Kick presets for Sylenth1? Sorry, did I understand correctly what you wrote?
yes, some preset packs include kicks synthetized, even the default preset pack i believe
DigiNut
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Originally posted by wayfinder
nothing wrong with enjoying the sound design part of making music.
I'm not convinced that kick drums are a particularly useful or interesting subset of sound design. Sure, learn to design your own leads and pads and basses if you're into that. But in the vast majority of electronic music, every kick is completely interchangeable with about 278,000 other kicks with just a little bit of EQ work.
wayfinder
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Originally posted by DigiNut
I'm not convinced that kick drums are a particularly useful or interesting subset of sound design. Sure, learn to design your own leads and pads and basses if you're into that. But in the vast majority of electronic music, every kick is completely interchangeable with about 278,000 other kicks with just a little bit of EQ work.
That's pretty much what I used to think, until I was forced to do research and get into kick synthesis because I had to work in a synth-only environment with no samples available.
DigiNut
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Originally posted by wayfinder
That's pretty much what I used to think, until I was forced to do research and get into kick synthesis because I had to work in a synth-only environment with no samples available.
Was this an actual home/work studio environment or an academic one? That sounds unequivocally like an arbitrarily- or at least artificially-imposed constraint.
wayfinder
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Originally posted by DigiNut
Was this an actual home/work studio environment or an academic one? That sounds unequivocally like an arbitrarily- or at least artificially-imposed constraint.
I started making soundtracks for 64k intros.
meriter
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Originally posted by DigiNut
I'm not convinced that kick drums are a particularly useful or interesting subset of sound design.
Looney4Clooney
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Originally posted by DigiNut
I'm not convinced that kick drums are a particularly useful or interesting subset of sound design. Sure, learn to design your own leads and pads and basses if you're into that. But in the vast majority of electronic music, every kick is completely interchangeable with about 278,000 other kicks with just a little bit of EQ work.
when you consider the importance of the kick in dance, and that for some reason, people do tell them apart an make a rather big deal about it, I think it is probably something people should just take the bit of time it takes to learn. the process is rather simple. Once you understand what makes a kick drum, you can do proper layering with samples that give it the attack you have in your head, the main body is just so much easier to get right using bazzism than going thru samples.
I most competent producers are doing both. I think you will find very few good producers just using samples. It is just quicker.
Verona^My
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Originally posted by cryophonik
Or, they could stop trying to reinvent the wheel and focus on more important things, like songwriting. Oh wait, never mind, we're talking about EDM. songs with no musical substance is the norm. Yeah, keep working on making your own kick drums. The only thing audiences care about is the kick drum.
^^^ I agree. But the beat is very important in songwriting and it adds a flavor to a track that defines a musical piece in a certain way. The beat is one of the reasons I love Johnny Cash (besides his performances which really carry the track). Boom Chucka, Boom baby.
