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making good trance kicks in 3xosc (pg. 3)
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| Rodri Santos |
| kick is very important, specially for club music ad it's present in 90% of the track so its something you should care. But an outstanding kick won't make your track a good track and a self made kick does not imply it's better than a professional made sample. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Verona^My
^^^ I agree. But the beat is very important in songwriting and it adds a flavor to a track that defines a musical piece in a certain way. The beat is one of the reasons I love Johnny Cash (besides his performances which really carry the track). Boom Chucka, Boom baby. |
ironically, song writing would be re inventing the wheel. I mean i think a good producer would be competent in all areas but sound creation somehow less redundant that song writing. As i've said over and over, there is only 1 thing changing in music and it is production. thats is. Everything else is the same repackaged in a different aesthetic. |
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| Seven Doxian |
| alright i think i figured it out .....so i saw there was a 3x osc challenge on another forum so i decided to give it a go...the kick i made is much better even figured out how to get a good slap by shifting some notes around....i think its made me much better all around in not only synthesis but in layering kicks in general....check it out if you get a chance....thanks again for the help ! |
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| theterran |
Nice, goes to show ya what FL's simple 3xosc can do. Would like to try this sometime with sylenth1.
Found it amusing that you say thanks for the help, when not 1 post addressed the OP. 90% of posts saying "Go sample son", and the other 10% arguing about importance of kicks blah blah.
Though yeah, if you're not enjoying synthesis, better to sample. Music should be enjoyable, right? |
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| Seven Doxian |
| quote: | Originally posted by theterran
Nice, goes to show ya what FL's simple 3xosc can do. Would like to try this sometime with sylenth1.
Found it amusing that you say thanks for the help, when not 1 post addressed the OP. 90% of posts saying "Go sample son", and the other 10% arguing about importance of kicks blah blah.
Though yeah, if you're not enjoying synthesis, better to sample. Music should be enjoyable, right? |
Thanks!!....i agree ....i just like to limit myself from time to time to get a better grasp on synthesis and it helps a lot....lol now ill go back to a unison synth and vengeance samples .....just nice to know i can make a decent kick from scratch. |
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| theterran |
Yeah I like this idea, quite inspiring actually. It's really different to wrap your head around making your one synth do all of the work, and making everything fit together.
Gives you a real appreciation for sample packs, soundbanks, presets etc...
Went ahead and took a stab at it. I'm not as familiar with trying to make drums using synthesis (so they probably suck) but I thought I'd try. Making all of your own sounds/drumkit is quite time intensive :S.
Went for a darker more rounded kick (into the dark vibes lately), Layered a few sines at different octaves for the lows and then a saw for the midrange snap. Then decimated/compressed the crap out of it.
Everything else was done from init. patch. Sort of an unorganized attempt, but most of time went into the instruments.
Cheers for the inspiration man.
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| Seven Doxian |
| Sounds great !....i wonder if any sucessful producers nowadays make their own drumkits from scratch....prob everyone using samples id say but you're right it does give you a real appreciation for the people who actually make sample packs from scratch. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
Kick drum synthesis is pretty simple. You can really just line up cycles of sine waves at varying speeds and that is pretty much your 909.
I use samples for the tops, and synths for the low end that doesn't really a sound you could define other than boom.
Granted the way I produce edm, if it doesn't sound good unmixed, well I ve never actually been there. I don't mix as I go but I desgn elements that fit.
Most of the producers that people query make their own. Not from scratch but well, I usually spend a day loading up random stuff in s layer, and just see what I can get. Samples go to my personal bin. And I go there first for samples because I already know I like them or they would be canned. |
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| Seven Doxian |
| Ive heard somewhere Madeon makes all his own drums from scratch which is awesome....the only 2 sounds i really couldnt get to my satisfaction were a good clap and a nice crash.....i used white noise and the vocodex for the crash but not close enough for my taste....for the low end of my kick i generated a sine , eXport it and import it back into the sampler .....i got it from this video. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4az2dUoxtj8 |
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| stewart.m |
| what about frutys classic kick vst |
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| Seven Doxian |
| quote: | Originally posted by stewart.m
what about frutys classic kick vst |
you know ive never used it really or the new vst called bassdrum either....i used to be a lazier producer thinking one synth for one layer but im obsessed now with layering and also moving away from unison as well putting more layers into the track and having more control over each layer.... the downside of that is cpu can be heavy....but with smaller synths like 3xosc i can really layer the hell out of things with no cpu hit....besides its fun and educational to try and make your own sounds and drums....producing should be fun :) |
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| Trancelover03591 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seven Doxian
alright i think i figured it out .....so i saw there was a 3x osc challenge on another forum so i decided to give it a go...the kick i made is much better even figured out how to get a good slap by shifting some notes around....i think its made me much better all around in not only synthesis but in layering kicks in general....check it out if you get a chance....thanks again for the help ! |
I like it. Just wish you had made taken a few screen shots of the settings to make it! |
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