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should the US intervene in Syria? (pg. 12)
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I like Lindsey Graham, he's a good man.
GOOSE CREEK, S.C. (CBS Charlotte/AP) — South Carolina U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham says he’s convinced that Syrian President Assad used chemical weapons on his own people.
Graham told reporters in Goose Creek on Tuesday that taking action against Syria in response to the situation is not a question of yes or no, but rather a question of bad or worse choices.
He says if there is no U.S. response, Iran will not believe America’s resolve to block Iran from developing nuclear weapons. Graham also says those nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists could result in a bomb coming to Charleston Harbor.
He says he’s working to convince South Carolinians weary of war that the situations in Syria and Iran are linked. Graham says Syria could destabilize the entire Middle East.
Secretary of State John Kerry said last week that more than 1,400 people, including hundreds of children, were killed during the Aug. 21 chemical attack carried out by Bashar Assad’s regime.
http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2013/09/03/graham-nukes-in-hands-of-terrorists-could-result-in-bomb-coming-to-charleston-harbor/ |
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| U.S should arm Israel |
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| srussell0018 |
WWIII will never happen because world leaders have enough sense to not be complete morons like you.
Kill yourself. |
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| Spacey Orange |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
WWIII will never happen because world leaders have enough sense to not be complete morons like you. |
keep deluding yourself with your wishful thinking.
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| Spacey Orange |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
...like using nerve gas or other completely indiscriminate weaponry on its own people? |
1. the agreement you cited is international (nation versus nation) and not domestic. one should't just gloss over that fact. it goes to the heart of the matter and is principal reason cited by those advocating intervention.
2. its not clear if they were used at all.
3. its not clear that they were used by government troops.
4. even if they were used by its government, its not clear that whoever used them were under President Assad's direct command and control.
5. even if he did you use them, it wasn't indiscriminate as you suggest; they were targeted at someone. its not as if someone closed their eyes and blindly put in some coordinates at the launch.
6. see number 1.
7. recall the following:
| quote: | Suffer the Little Children
Every big media event needs what journalists and flacks alike refer to as "the hook." An ideal hook becomes the central element of a story that makes it newsworthy, evokes a strong emotional response, and sticks in the memory. In the case of the Gulf War, the "hook" was invented by Hill & Knowlton. In style, substance and mode of delivery, it bore an uncanny resemblance to England's World War I hearings that accused German soldiers of killing babies.
On October 10, 1990, the Congressional Human Rights Caucus held a hearing on Capitol Hill which provided the first opportunity for formal presentations of Iraqi human rights violations. Outwardly, the hearing resembled an official congressional proceeding, but appearances were deceiving. In reality, the Human Rights Caucus, chaired by California Democrat Tom Lantos and Illinois Republican John Porter, was simply an association of politicians. Lantos and Porter were also co-chairs of the Congressional Human Rights Foundation, a legally separate entity that occupied free office space valued at $3,000 a year in Hill & Knowlton's Washington, DC office. Notwithstanding its congressional trappings, the Congressional Human Rights Caucus served as another Hill & Knowlton front group, which -- like all front groups -- used a noble-sounding name to disguise its true purpose.80
Only a few astute observers noticed the hypocrisy in Hill & Knowlton's use of the term "human rights." One of those observers was John MacArthur, author of The Second Front, which remains the best book written about the manipulation of the news media during the Gulf War. In the fall of 1990, MacArthur reported, Hill & Knowlton's Washington switchboard was simultaneously fielding calls for the Human Rights Foundation and for "government representatives of Indonesia, another H&K client. Like H&K client Turkey, Indonesia is a practitioner of naked aggression, having seized ... the former Portuguese colony of East Timor in 1975. Since the annexation of East Timor, the Indonesian government has killed, by conservative estimate, about 100,000 inhabitants of the region."81
MacArthur also noticed another telling detail about the October 1990 hearings: "The Human Rights Caucus is not a committee of congress, and therefore it is unencumbered by the legal accouterments that would make a witness hesitate before he or she lied. ... Lying under oath in front of a congressional committee is a crime; lying from under the cover of anonymity to a caucus is merely public relations."82
In fact, the most emotionally moving testimony on October 10 came from a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl, known only by her first name of Nayirah. According to the Caucus, Nayirah's full name was being kept confidential to prevent Iraqi reprisals against her family in occupied Kuwait. Sobbing, she described what she had seen with her own eyes in a hospital in Kuwait City. Her written testimony was passed out in a media kit prepared by Citizens for a Free Kuwait. "I volunteered at the al-Addan hospital," Nayirah said. "While I was there, I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with guns, and go into the room where ... babies were in incubators. They took the babies out of the incubators, took the incubators, and left the babies on the cold floor to die."83
Three months passed between Nayirah's testimony and the start of the war. During those months, the story of babies torn from their incubators was repeated over and over again. President Bush told the story. It was recited as fact in Congressional testimony, on TV and radio talk shows, and at the UN Security Council. "Of all the accusations made against the dictator," MacArthur observed, "none had more impact on American public opinion than the one about Iraqi soldiers removing 312 babies from their incubators and leaving them to die on the cold hospital floors of Kuwait City."84
At the Human Rights Caucus, however, Hill & Knowlton and Congressman Lantos had failed to reveal that Nayirah was a member of the Kuwaiti Royal Family. Her father, in fact, was Saud Nasir al-Sabah, Kuwait's Ambassador to the US, who sat listening in the hearing room during her testimony. The Caucus also failed to reveal that H&K vice-president Lauri Fitz-Pegado had coached Nayirah in what even the Kuwaitis' own investigators later confirmed was false testimony.
If Nayirah's outrageous lie had been exposed at the time it was told, it might have at least caused some in Congress and the news media to soberly reevaluate the extent to which they were being skillfully manipulated to support military action. Public opinion was deeply divided on Bush's Gulf policy. As late as December 1990, a New York Times/CBS News poll indicated that 48 percent of the American people wanted Bush to wait before taking any action if Iraq failed to withdraw from Kuwait by Bush's January 15 deadline.85 On January 12, the US Senate voted by a narrow, five-vote margin to support the Bush administration in a declaration of war. Given the narrowness of the vote, the babies-thrown-from-incubators story may have turned the tide in Bush's favor.
Following the war, human rights investigators attempted to confirm Nayirah's story and could find no witnesses or other evidence to support it. Amnesty International, which had fallen for the story, was forced to issue an embarrassing retraction. Nayirah herself was unavailable for comment. "This is the first allegation I've had that she was the ambassador's daughter," said Human Rights Caucus co-chair John Porter. "Yes, I think people ... were entitled to know the source of her testimony." When journalists for the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation asked Nasir al-Sabah for permission to question Nayirah about her story, the ambassador angrily refused.86 |
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Nice Jefferson quote, you should read about how the English shat their pants at the mere sight of the man when he travelled diplomatically to UK.
Speaking of Britain, well, it seems Germany signed this Obama treaty for Syrian intervention. Britain is the odd one out, clearly not good for its image...Today I read this:
| quote: | British companies sold chemicals to Syria that could have been used to produce the deadly nerve agent that killed 1,400 people, The Mail on Sunday can reveal today.
Between July 2004 and May 2010 the Government issued five export licences to two companies, allowing them to sell Syria sodium fluoride, which is used to make sarin.
The Government last night admitted for the first time that the chemical was delivered to Syria – a clear breach of international protocol on the trade of dangerous substances that has been condemned as ‘grossly irresponsible’.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...l#ixzz2eHM3uIh1
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This is the Sale Pitch Obama is using.
Obama's shocking case for striking Syria: Gruesome series of videos taken in aftermath of gas attacks that White House is using to persuade Senators and Congressmen to back US air strikes
The Obama is showing the new footage to members of Congress to drum up support for his plan for military intervention in Syria
Of the 1,429 people killed in the August attack, at least 426 were children
In one of the more heartbreaking videos, a room is full of what appear to be the lifeless bodies of dozens of children. In another, men are seen foaming at the mouth and having convulsions.
President Barack Obama has been showing an officially-verified collection of 13 graphic videos to lawmakers that depict the horrors of the chemical gas attacks in Syria as he lobbies to win approval for his plan to use military force against the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.
So far, support for the president's plan has been sparse, with even fellow Democrats opposing the use of military force in Syria. He is preparing a media blitz for Monday and promised Americans in his weekly address on Saturday that 'This would not be another Iraq or Afghanistan.'
CNN first obtained the 13 videos showing the carnage of the August 21 chemical weapons attack near the rebel stronghold of Demascus. The Obama administration told lawmakers in the Senate Intelligence Committee - which last week approved plans to attack Syria - that the videos' authenticity has been verified by the intelligence community.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...l#ixzz2eHQjoy2b
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| a Syrian has never called me a n*****. |
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| I have to congratulate Kudlow Jones Levin Hannity Savage Limbaugh etc for speaking the truth and news casting excellently throughout the week. It doesn't get more American than that! :D |
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It's amazing to see KERRY turn into a RAMPANT WAR MONGER after being anti-war for a while. Well he's a bad ass (militarily). It's just weird! Like they've given the President and Kerry Psychotropic drugs or something.
Ugh, these Congress ******s talking about the Constitution and rubbish. Spooks |
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| Watching CSPAN...Hagel sucks! This man has no substance. |
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| quote: | UPDATED: The network anchor conducted the interview in Damascus on Sunday at the presidential palace.
CBS News is set to air a Charlie Rose interview of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad on its morning and evening newscasts on Monday.
CBS has billed the interview as the first television questioning that Assad has been given in two years. Rose interviewed Assad in Damascus at the presidential palace on Sunday, the network said in a statement.
Clips from the interview will first appear on CBS' morning show on Monday. The interview will also be aired on The Charlie Rose Show on PBS at 9 pm ET. |
http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/live...-charlie-624023
Six Obama interviews. all of them. Specially, ABC news with that liberal turd Bryan Williams and Chuck the retard. |
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