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should the US intervene in Syria? (pg. 3)
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| FuzzQi |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
What about thermite plasma? HAVEN'T YOU SEEN THE ROCK?!
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Honestly, termites can do some nasty damage to your house's structure but I wouldn't consider them a viable weapon. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
:stongue: what, they're going to throw a bunch of grenades on the target? |
You realize thermite can be deployed in things other than grenades right?
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Thermite was also used in both German and Allied incendiary bombs during World War II. Incendiary bombs usually consisted of dozens of thin thermite-filled canisters (bomblets) ignited by a magnesium fuse. Incendiary bombs destroyed entire cities due to the raging fires that resulted from their use. |
You're probably right though. Since we just don't possess the technology which was used during WWII 70+ years ago. |
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| meriter |
| Is there oil in syria? |
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| FuzzQi |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Since we just don't possess the technology which was used during WWII 70+ years ago. |
North Korea has the monopoly on that now |
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| hardcore trancer |
Did somebody say something about oil in Syria?
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The Kirkuk-Banias pipeline runs from Kirkuk in Northern Iraq, to the Syrian town of Banias, on the Mediterranean Sea between Turkey and Lebanon. Ever since US forces inadvertently destroyed it in 2003, most of the pipeline has been shut down. While there have been plans in the works to make the Iraqi portion of the pipeline functional again, those plans have yet to come to fruition. And Syria has at least 2.5 billion barrels of oil in its fields, making it the next largest Middle Eastern oil producer after Iraq. After ten unproductive years, the oil companies dependent on the Kirkuk-Banias pipeline's output are eager to get the pipeline operational again. |
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| srussell0018 |
| No, nobody said anything about oil, but leave it to you to bring it up in any conversations having to do with Muslims. Forget about the genocide, let's get that oil! I didn't know hummus and falafel made people go full retard. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Forget about the genocide, let's get that oil! |
Lets play it your way Russell. Who committed this genocide in Syria? Rebels? Assad? What's your solution to stop this genocide? Dropping more bombs? Because when we kill their women and children it isn't genocide right?
Bombing stockpiles of chemical weapons would be untenable, since many would release poison gases into densely populated neighborhoods. And there are too many ways of delivering chemical weapons—planes, missiles, mortars, and so on—to eliminate all of them so how will the military strike actually help the situation over there? |
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| hardcore trancer |
Here is what Robert Fisk has to say about Syria:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...de-8786680.html
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Does Obama know he’s fighting on al-Qa’ida’s side?
If Barack Obama decides to attack the Syrian regime, he has ensured – for the very first time in history – that the United States will be on the same side as al-Qa’ida.
Quite an alliance! Was it not the Three Musketeers who shouted “All for one and one for all” each time they sought combat? This really should be the new battle cry if – or when – the statesmen of the Western world go to war against Bashar al-Assad.
The men who destroyed so many thousands on 9/11 will then be fighting alongside the very nation whose innocents they so cruelly murdered almost exactly 12 years ago. Quite an achievement for Obama, Cameron, Hollande and the rest of the miniature warlords.
This, of course, will not be trumpeted by the Pentagon or the White House – nor, I suppose, by al-Qa’ida – though they are both trying to destroy Bashar. So are the Nusra front, one of al-Qa’ida’s affiliates. But it does raise some interesting possibilities.
Maybe the Americans should ask al-Qa’ida for intelligence help – after all, this is the group with “boots on the ground”, something the Americans have no interest in doing. And maybe al-Qa’ida could offer some target information facilities to the country which usually claims that the supporters of al-Qa’ida, rather than the Syrians, are the most wanted men in the world.
There will be some ironies, of course. While the Americans drone al-Qa’ida to death in Yemen and Pakistan – along, of course, with the usual flock of civilians – they will be giving them, with the help of Messrs Cameron, Hollande and the other Little General-politicians, material assistance in Syria by hitting al-Qa’ida’s enemies. Indeed, you can bet your bottom dollar that the one target the Americans will not strike in Syria will be al-Qa’ida or the Nusra front.
And our own Prime Minister will applaud whatever the Americans do, thus allying himself with al-Qa’ida, whose London bombings may have slipped his mind. Perhaps – since there is no institutional memory left among modern governments – Cameron has forgotten how similar are the sentiments being uttered by Obama and himself to those uttered by Bush and Blair a decade ago, the same bland assurances, uttered with such self-confidence but without quite enough evidence to make it stick.
In Iraq, we went to war on the basis of lies originally uttered by fakers and conmen. Now it’s war by YouTube. This doesn’t mean that the terrible images of the gassed and dying Syrian civilians are false. It does mean that any evidence to the contrary is going to have to be suppressed. For example, no-one is going to be interested in persistent reports in Beirut that three Hezbollah members – fighting alongside government troops in Damascus – were apparently struck down by the same gas on the same day, supposedly in tunnels. They are now said to be undergoing treatment in a Beirut hospital. So if Syrian government forces used gas, how come Hezbollah men might have been stricken too? Blowback?
And while we’re talking about institutional memory, hands up which of our jolly statesmen know what happened last time the Americans took on the Syrian government army? I bet they can’t remember. Well it happened in Lebanon when the US Air Force decided to bomb Syrian missiles in the Bekaa Valley on 4 December 1983. I recall this very well because I was here in Lebanon. An American A-6 fighter bomber was hit by a Syrian Strela missile – Russian made, naturally – and crash-landed in the Bekaa; its pilot, Mark Lange, was killed, its co-pilot, Robert Goodman, taken prisoner and freighted off to jail in Damascus. Jesse Jackson had to travel to Syria to get him back after almost a month amid many clichés about “ending the cycle of violence”. Another American plane – this time an A-7 – was also hit by Syrian fire but the pilot managed to eject over the Mediterranean where he was plucked from the water by a Lebanese fishing boat. His plane was also destroyed.
Sure, we are told that it will be a short strike on Syria, in and out, a couple of days. That’s what Obama likes to think. But think Iran. Think Hezbollah. I rather suspect – if Obama does go ahead – that this one will run and run. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Lets play it your way Russell. Who committed this genocide in Syria? Rebels? Assad? What's your solution to stop this genocide? Dropping more bombs? Because when we kill their women and children it isn't genocide right?
Bombing stockpiles of chemical weapons would be untenable, since many would release poison gases into densely populated neighborhoods. And there are too many ways of delivering chemical weapons—planes, missiles, mortars, and so on—to eliminate all of them so how will the military strike actually help the situation over there? |
That's exactly what military strategists are for. I'm not one and neither are you. I'm fairly confident that they know a great deal more than you about both the situation itself and how to handle it. It's tiring seeing you only ever post in the COR when it's in defense of Muslims somewhere. Aren't you Iranian? Why do you even care? Oh right, because you're Arab and hate America. |
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| OrangestO |
I wonder what Osama would say. |
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| srussell0018 |
| I wonder what Allah would say. |
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| Kylle |
Who else is gonna fight injustice if not the most powerful nation on earth?
Of course the us should intervene. |
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