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holy crap, nostalgia overload (pg. 5)
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| Forums are tombs and we are the old ghosts haunting them. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
For the younger demographic? FB Might as well be mysapce now.
Yep, and most of that growth from the 500m mark is 3rd world countries and silver surfers who are just discovering the internet.
The kids aren't even bothering figuring out what FB is. Why do you think FB bought instagram and tried to buy snapchat in 2014 for $3bn when it's actual valuation was $800m?
because they know under 30's don't give a about facebook.
Even my business has abandoned FB advertising as it's just a stream of drivel and really used as little more than a way for people in other countries to keep in touch,
Also, FB has a real problem with decline in people actually posting and more and more content is meaningless reposts:
http://fortune.com/2016/04/07/facebook-sharing-decline/
FB will have it's place but for this and next generation, it's over. |
Are you just completely spewing more nonsense here?
Just because American teenagers are not using Facebook as much as other apps does not mean that as a social media platform it is dead/dying. As you just said, it is reaching more and more people around the world. That's hardly decline and fall territory.
And regarding American teenagers, I have many issues with your statement that kids don't even find out what FB is anymore, as it's still a top-choice for a substantial percentage of them (around 20%). If that many see it as a top choice, it seems fair to assume many others at least use it. See http://fortune.com/2016/04/13/snapc...-piper-jaffray/
I think your assertion that 'under 30s don't give a ' about FB is completely unintelligent, as the latest data I've seen shows that 82% of online adults 18-29 use FB. http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/08/...al-media-users/
And did you read that Fortune article? It talks about how much of the reason sharing is declining is that people are beginning to take FB more seriously. It's no longer seen as an intimate personal conversation, but something more public and larger. That is certainly a shift from it's original perception, but, again, that is by no means dying or dead. |
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| Jon_Snow |
I don't know who I hate more the yellow journalists or the morons who believe their crap and repost it as if it were the truth. It's scary someone would put that much work into being a numbskull.
The forums are a pac-man game on level zero with no pac man, only a few of us ghosts left.
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Are you just completely spewing more nonsense here?
Just because American teenagers are not using Facebook as much as other apps does not mean that as a social media platform it is dead/dying. As you just said, it is reaching more and more people around the world. That's hardly decline and fall territory.
And regarding American teenagers, I have many issues with your statement that kids don't even find out what FB is anymore, as it's still a top-choice for a substantial percentage of them (around 20%). If that many see it as a top choice, it seems fair to assume many others at least use it. See http://fortune.com/2016/04/13/snapc...-piper-jaffray/
I think your assertion that 'under 30s don't give a ' about FB is completely unintelligent, as the latest data I've seen shows that 82% of online adults 18-29 use FB. http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/08/...al-media-users/
And did you read that Fortune article? It talks about how much of the reason sharing is declining is that people are beginning to take FB more seriously. It's no longer seen as an intimate personal conversation, but something more public and larger. That is certainly a shift from it's original perception, but, again, that is by no means dying or dead. |
You seem to be completely ignorant of context of this discussion; I specifically mentioned the social media, programs and networking sites that were alongside TA all those years. So while you may talk about facebook picking up great numbers of elderly people in the middle east (etc) that has literally nothing to do with the fact that for younger generations it's in serious decline. Look at the pew online research stats. In 2011 the number of teen that used facebook was over 80%. In 2015 that had dropped to 71%. It's expected to be even lower when the 2016 results are in.
in fact facebook is now third place in what is termed "Most important network" in the teen market behind Snapchat and Twitter. They also spend less time (of the 200 mins a day spent online) on facebook than Snapchat or twitter. In fact the average active user spends 20mins on facebook a day but those numbers drop significantly for teens, and now factor in, that's less than 10% of those teens 200mins a day.....
Furthermore, you seem to have completely missed the point of the forbes article; while mobile access increases and more people generally have access now, original content is down. That's bad news for facebook as the article explains becuase it becomes an endless repost of old information, and corporate output which bores the out of ADD teens who want new info, fast and disposable.
As I said, my business has now completely moved away from FB advertising as have many other business owners I know, becuase you put content out there so many ways now without having to pay for it, or get much more effective traction on other networks. I'm sure cocacola is probably spending more than ever on FB and there's no denying it's by far the largest platform, but for young people it's going downhill, and fast. |
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| Swamper |
^ RANN is mostly right. FB is full of so much garbage that I regularly unfollow people and stick to certain groups for quality shares/content. Otherwise there is always Reddit and some other places I go on when I want to kill some time/see what is going on.
I would argue Snapchat/Instagram is where its at for the younger peeps now versus Twitter though. |
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| MSZ |
| Sounds like Lews has been hanging around System-J a little too much, what a tard. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
You seem to be completely ignorant of context of this discussion; I specifically mentioned the social media, programs and networking sites that were alongside TA all those years. So while you may talk about facebook picking up great numbers of elderly people in the middle east (etc) that has literally nothing to do with the fact that for younger generations it's in serious decline. |
What relevance do teenagers have to whether it will outlast TA? Most of the people still posting here are in their 30s, so it's somewhat counter-productive to declare Facebook dead on the same criteria.
Also, ironically, the little flickers of activity left in the COR pretty much amount to your "way for people in other countries to keep in touch" description, as 50% of the threads here are about what we're doing with our weekends. In terms of musical discussion, TA has been sadly bereft for a couple of years now. There's only about 5-10 active members who actually keep me in the loop about new music.
It's certainly an achievement for a forum to have survived for so long, but I really worry that the place will become a tomb within the next 1-2 years. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
You seem to be completely ignorant of context of this discussion; I specifically mentioned the social media, programs and networking sites that were alongside TA all those years. So while you may talk about facebook picking up great numbers of elderly people in the middle east (etc) that has literally nothing to do with the fact that for younger generations it's in serious decline. Look at the pew online research stats. In 2011 the number of teen that used facebook was over 80%. In 2015 that had dropped to 71%. It's expected to be even lower when the 2016 results are in. |
You seem to be completely ignorant of a great many things. I used to think you were rather unintelligent, but Jesus...
You mentioned social media, programs, and networking sites that were alongside TA all those years, yes, and then you said Facebook is dead or dying. That is factually inaccurate. Facebook, the social networking site, is continuing to add hundreds of millions of active users. They may not be the users you wish them to be, they may not be using it in the way you wish, but they are still using it. Facebook is not dead or dying. It is, rather, changing. As I said above.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
in fact facebook is now third place in what is termed "Most important network" in the teen market behind Snapchat and Twitter. |
In fact, I posted that right above in my post. Really not very good at reading, are you?
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Furthermore, you seem to have completely missed the point of the forbes article; while mobile access increases and more people generally have access now, original content is down. That's bad news for facebook as the article explains becuase it becomes an endless repost of old information, and corporate output which bores the out of ADD teens who want new info, fast and disposable. |
You really DO have issues reading, don't you? That was a Fortune article, not a Forbes article, for one.
Secondly, the article itself states 'Facebook dominates social media.' Not exactly last rites, hmm?
Thirdly, as I quite literally just wrote above (but which you are obviously incapable of understanding, so I'm not sure why I'll re-post it):
'[The Fortune article] talks about how much of the reason sharing is declining is that people are beginning to take FB more seriously. It's no longer seen as an intimate personal conversation, but something more public and larger. That is certainly a shift from it's original perception, but, again, that is by no means dying or dead.'
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
As I said, my business has now completely moved away from FB advertising as have many other business owners I know, becuase you put content out there so many ways now without having to pay for it, or get much more effective traction on other networks. I'm sure cocacola is probably spending more than ever on FB and there's no denying it's by far the largest platform, but for young people it's going downhill, and fast. |
That's wonderful for you. It by no mean indicates Facebook is dead or dying, the point you initially made, and the point that is clearly factually wrong.
As ing stated, Facebook has changed dramatically from how it used to be, but it has more users than ever, and it is clearly not dying or dead.
I don't know why I keep responding to your ignorant bull. I really should stop. |
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| Lira |
In a million years, anthropologists will come to TA and think these were the ruins of a glorious civilisation. And they'll be half right, for it will have been glorious.
Glorious, I say. |
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| Jon_Snow |
| I read some where smart phones have obsoleted desktop computers. If you own one do yourself a favor put it in the trash, it's going the way of the dodo. |
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| Vector A |
| Non-phone computers are obsolete if your idea of computing is limited to making Instagram posts, searching for restaurants, and liking things on Facebook. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Shotgun Clyde. a name that ends with "inky". |
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