Originally posted by AlphaStarred
No, he sold out when he stopped observing the Torah.
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Mr.Mystery
There's one thing I'll say for Tiesto, though: at least he stopped beating the dead horse they call trance and moved on to something else. Granted, that something else might be utter horse, but he did it.
planetaryplayer
question to system j. who in your opinion is the single greatest export of UK techno?
for me its Luke Slater but thats a heavily biased opinion. the only other person i think could be surgeon. u mentioned sandwell but i don't think regis is that great. overall though i would put UK #2 behind detroit in terms of techno producers for me
AlphaStarred
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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
There's one thing I'll say for Tiesto, though: at least he stopped beating the dead horse they call trance and moved on to something else. Granted, that something else might be utter horse, but he did it.
Yeah, honestly it does get tiresome after a while doing the same old thing. My only disappointment with these folks is that their older output is just so much better in quality. More creative, more experimental, more interesting. None of the above would describe the modern stuff some of them are doing.
Trance-M
I bet just few here ever heard this ;)
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by planetaryplayer
question to system j. who in your opinion is the single greatest export of UK techno?
for me its Luke Slater but thats a heavily biased opinion. the only other person i think could be surgeon. u mentioned sandwell but i don't think regis is that great. overall though i would put UK #2 behind detroit in terms of techno producers for me
I'm surprised. I'd say we are a distant third behind the US and Germany, at best. We seem to have a lot of names of the calibre of Slater, Regis, Surgeon, Ben Sims, Dave Clarke, Slam, Perc etc. but none of them stand out as absolute legends. But then again, I'm not a massive techno head.
Lews
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'm surprised. I'd say we are a distant third behind the US and Germany, at best. We seem to have a lot of names of the calibre of Slater, Regis, Surgeon, Ben Sims, Dave Clarke, Slam, Perc etc. but none of them stand out as absolute legends. But then again, I'm not a massive techno head.
I'm really not a techno head by any stretch, but surely Dave Clarke has reached legendary status?
Woony
I would say Slater, Dave Clarke and Regis/Surgeon are absolute Legends. Mostly based off their releases in the early/mid 90s though.
paulversuspaul
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Originally posted by Woony
I would say Slater, Dave Clarke and Regis/Surgeon are absolute Legends. Mostly based off their releases in the early/mid 90s though.
concur. Those 90s tracks of they put out are beyond massive. You would know better, but imo those tracks have had a huge effect of someone like shed and his newer productions.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Woony
I would say Slater, Dave Clarke and Regis/Surgeon are absolute Legends. Mostly based off their releases in the early/mid 90s though.
You were mocking Dave Clarke's Boiler Room appearance not so long ago. I just don't think UK techno has much of an identity. None of those names form a compelling mythos like Detroit or Berlin have.
Woony
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You were mocking Dave Clarke's Boiler Room appearance not so long ago. I just don't think UK techno has much of an identity. None of those names form a compelling mythos like Detroit or Berlin have.
Sure, the Red Series is blueprint techno though.
I don't know if UK techno as a whole has an identity but it's a whole country - I don't think German techno really has an unifying identity either - Berlin/Cologne/Frankfurt were totally different from the beginning.
I think Birmingham Techno has a pretty compelling mythos, it's of course totally made up since afaik there was never really a big "Birmingham-techno-scene" but the whole post-punk -> industrial techno lineage that Downwards/Sandwell represent is quite compelling. And like I said elsewhere recently, ripping off early Downwards is all the rage right now. If you listen to what popular labels like Mord are pumping out right now, it's totally Birmingham influenced.
planetaryplayer
I was never big on Clarke. But to this date Luke's production is still top class. If not best. I only caught him once in an LB dub corp vs PAS set and it was killer. Those guys don't come around here often.
