it's like he lost all his talent in a matter a 2-3 years, sometimes i even wonder if all of his good tracks were ghost-produced\composed, it just doesn't make sense.
Always thought Gareth was on his way to being that guy who makes fun music, but something went bad at some point:
Matt:
I can still remember hearing this track for the first time as a kid :crazy::eyespop:
kosmotika
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Originally posted by Viber
Well, this guy fell off a cliff.
it's like he lost all his talent in a matter a 2-3 years, sometimes i even wonder if all of his good tracks were ghost-produced\composed, it just doesn't make sense.
Always thought Gareth was on his way to being that guy who makes fun music, but something went bad at some point:
Matt:
I can still remember hearing this track for the first time as a kid :crazy::eyespop:
I read somewhere a long while ago that a lot of Chicane's earliest hits were heavily influenced by Chicane's partner from Disco Citizens Leo Elstob. In fact that may be him in the white shirt in that video, doesn't show him enough for me to really tell though.
Also very clever of Darey to use a speed garage-esque bass in a trance tune. He did some very good work back in the day. Can't forget his remix of Wizards Of The Sonic, Strings For Yasmin and El Nino either.
Mr.Mystery
Not that Scooter was ever anything but cheese, but they could make a serious tune if they wanted to.
kosmotika
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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Not that Scooter was ever anything but cheese, but they could make a serious tune if they wanted to.
That's a beautiful piece. I find that Scooter's best work is usually reserved for albums and B-sides.
I particularly liked We Bring The Noise, some enjoyable stuff on that one.
Another honorable mention for this thread would be dutch dance act Infernal, who had success in the late 90s with their albums Infernal Affairs and Waiting For Daylight.
Compared to now:
AlphaStarred
^ you don't think some (if not all) of those tunes are cheesy?
kosmotika
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
^ you don't think some (if not all) of those tunes are cheesy?
Only perhaps Devil Drums, since it's more or less a reimagining of Played Alive. Still a fun tune though. Otherwise the production quality on these tracks is quite high and they're clearly produced with integrity. If you think they're in the same vein as stuff you'd hear from acts like Dee Dee, DJ Sammy and Jan Wayne though I'd like to hear the reasoning.
Viber
Andrew Bennett tries to get some milk out of cheesy trends during the last few years:
"deep house" milking:
The Bro-House stage:
His better days:
What a waste...
Lews
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Originally posted by kosmotika
Outside of that particular niche, yes. I have a friend who's big on Japanese hardcore. Now how he'd tell it, at the venues he goes to, nobody's playing anything but that. This is how I view your thinking on Bodzin. You know the phrase 'seek and you shall find'? It's like that. How I'd tell it, you'd get the idea nobody plays anything but oldschool trance, but to be quite honest with you, very few people compared to the majority of DJs I know of still play that style regularly. Most DJs not playing top 40 are playing progressive techno, 'big room' house and more commercial stuff like Guetta, Armin etc. Underground DJs can play what they like...I'm speaking on a broader scale. DJs that play at streetside clubs, at mainstream festivals and events will almost definitely not be playing deep, minimalistic experimental techno, nor will the vast majority of listeners of any sort of electronic music be listening to the stuff. It's not music which is easy to pick up. It's niche music and it will remain niche music because of that fact. At the same time, I consider trance to be a bit of a niche genre as well, but the difference is that it's easy to pick up. A large majority of the first time listeners I play music for end up becoming fans of the genre. It's mainly about exposure when it comes to trance. This is how it became mainstream in the 90s, and to this day you have many artists and DJs shoehorning the trance label onto their work to attract an audience they would potentially not have otherwise.
Bodzin will not become a household name to listeners of electronic dance music because his music is not easily accessible or marketable. Like I said...feel free to contact me in 20 years and tell me if people are still talking about his current work. 20 years after the fact, we're still arguing about Kaycee.
Anyways there's nothing left to be said. You and I both know there's no headway to be made here, so let's just drop this pointless back and forth.
Where have you gone clubbing besides Minneapolis?
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Originally posted by kosmotika
...they're clearly produced with integrity.
What, in the , does this mean?
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by kosmotika
Outside of that particular niche, yes.
The thing that baffles me the most about this is not even trance DJs play that kind of trance anymore. Outside the odd retro event or some small local amateur things, I have no idea where you expect 20 year old trance to get played.
It's very obvious that techno is a foreign landscape to you, but look at the guy's upcoming events on RA. At huge electronic festivals in Barcelona, Amsterdam, Brazil, Greece, Hungary, in Ibiza, the guy is playing. And that's just him, not including the plethora of similar DJs who play the same style. The evidence is right in front of you. This is the music getting played all over the world right now. How can you look at this and think that old school trance has anywhere near this kind of global reach in 2016? Because a Kaycee remix of a chart hit (Binary Finary) from 16 years ago has a lot of Youtube plays?
Your attempts to prove that nobody is dancing to this music is hopeless bedroom sophism. The evidence is blindingly, overwhelmingly obvious.
rubez
incredible robert miles track from the 1996 sasha independence night mix. love it.
AY STAR
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Originally posted by Kilixpree
one of his best works. can easily be fit into a techno set. back then when genre's just blended so well
was listening to this one before. belive dutch force was and alias of rank1
kosmotika
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Originally posted by Lews
Where have you gone clubbing besides Minneapolis?
Was a Tunnel regular in 96-98 Hamburg, they played all sorts of great hard trance, or of course you would call it cheese because it's not some 13 minute long monotonous intellectual pig, got the pleasure of attending the legendary Loveparade 98, moved to USA shortly afterwards and became a Twilo regular in NYC until its closing. Then moved to MN and got involved in the local scene.
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Originally posted by Lews What, in the , does this mean?
It means music that's not mass produced. Not contrived cookie cutter radio friendly pop music. Pretty ing straight forward way of saying it to me. Music with integrity obviously is not something you have experience with I suppose...
God this website. No wonder everyone's moved on to Discogs.
