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The usual end of the year circus
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| SYSTEM-J |
Still two more than me.
I suppose it's pretty indicative of who's been rocking up at the cool clubs around these parts. I've totally given up on checking out DJs from the hype carousel, because they're almost always pretty average. This year I've become more narrow-minded in my clubbing, and pretty much just gone to parties that fit my favoured niche. Had a lot more fun doing it. |
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| Lews |
Most of these names seem pretty obvious? Not necessarily bad choices, but nothing really surprising.
I don't know, it seems like dance music has gotten into a very comfortable groove right now - which is fine for me, as I've had a good time every night I've been out this year, from a Carl Cox classics night to an Anjunadeep showcase event to random local DJs. Seems like all is well in the [dance] world at the moment, at least from my perspective :) |
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| Sykonee |
So is Dixon now the Armin of the RA DJ's Poll?
Funny seeing a lot of yesteryear's Next Big Hype falling down the list (Troxler, Jamie Jones, Eats Everything), but yeah, generally just another rearranging of the same names we've seen the last half-decade.
Edit: Except Skream, wtf? |
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| Woony |
| If there is any greater development, it seems like next to the pedestrian underground mainstream ie. drumcode/innervisions etc. there's now the "weirdo" mainstream with DJs like the Black Madonna and Ben UFO placing in the top 10. I think they'r both overrated as but they both predictably satisfy peoples needs for "weird" and credible underground music without actually digging deeper, playing oddball music seemingly has lost all it's edge. I actually hate this kind of credible hype culture, like Jack said, it often provides very dull music. I think there's a DJ Nobdu b2b Black Madonna at Berghain next week, the perfect representation of two made-by-Boiler-Rooom DJs (one of which is a house DJ) randomly being thrown together. A big reason why i've been out less this year is because the bookings at Berghain have been kinda and part of it is that they've been booking more random hype names instead of longtime techno DJs that aren't just all style no substance. |
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| LoveHate |
Someone post a set from dixon in here that they really enjoy please. I have to see what all the fuss is about , i had the chance to see him in detroit a few years ago at the old miami but drinking beers at 7 am was a bad idea and i was burnt out before he came on at 3pm so i left .
Anyway whats up with him wearing a sweater everywhere ? It was blistering hot from what i remember and this dude has a sweater on |
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| miamitranceman |
| quote: | Originally posted by LoveHate
Someone post a set from dixon in here that they really enjoy please. I have to see what all the fuss is about , i had the chance to see him in detroit a few years ago at the old miami but drinking beers at 7 am was a bad idea and i was burnt out before he came on at 3pm so i left .
Anyway whats up with him wearing a sweater everywhere ? It was blistering hot from what i remember and this dude has a sweater on |
Guess it's his "thing." :toothless |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by Woony
A big reason why i've been out less this year is because the bookings at Berghain have been kinda ... |
To me, that reads as though if you go out, you usually only go to Berghain. From an "outsider-looking-in" perspective, there's a lot of awesome stuff going on in Berlin beyond that club, much of which is varied and substantial, not just "hype names". Am I misunderstanding your post, or is there something about Berlin-beyond-Berghain that I don't know? |
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| SYSTEM-J |
All the places without discriminating door policies are packed full of idiot backpackers. Although if you read through the "Talk about your last night out" thread, you'll find Woony goes to lots of places that aren't Berghain.
| quote: | Originally posted by Woony
I actually hate this kind of credible hype culture, like Jack said, it often provides very dull music. I think there's a DJ Nobdu b2b Black Madonna at Berghain next week, the perfect representation of two made-by-Boiler-Rooom DJs (one of which is a house DJ) randomly being thrown together. |
The thing about these taste-maker websites/blogs like Resident Advisor (or Pitchfork, on a broader level) is that they are essentially a bit pointless in the modern era. They can't cover 10% of the music out there and their reviews are largely rendered redundant in this era of Spotify, Youtube and so on. They exist for the kind of music "fan" who doesn't really develop their own taste, doesn't do much digging, but wants a summary of the latest hyped stuff.
I have the feeling a lot of these DJs and acts just drift into this sphere quite arbitrarily and start getting coverage, get Boiler Room appearances, make their way onto the circuit of promoters who book the online hype DJs because it will fill a club with that same kind of music "fan". The Black Madonna has, by all accounts, been around for decades, but suddenly she's playing absolutely everywhere. Why? |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
All the places without discriminating door policies are packed full of idiot backpackers. Although if you read through the "Talk about your last night out" thread, you'll find Woony goes to lots of places that aren't Berghain. |
Touché. I don't venture through these parts much anymore, so I figured there was something I was missing. :) |
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| Paradox Lost |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The thing about these taste-maker websites/blogs like Resident Advisor (or Pitchfork, on a broader level) is that they are essentially a bit pointless in the modern era. They can't cover 10% of the music out there and their reviews are largely rendered redundant in this era of Spotify, Youtube and so on. They exist for the kind of music "fan" who doesn't really develop their own taste, doesn't do much digging, but wants a summary of the latest hyped stuff.
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I don't doubt these sites serve to a large extent the demographic you described, but they also serve curious tastes who at least have a basic sense for what they're looking for beyond front-page tunes and what readily pops up on Spotify, and use sites like Pitchfork as a helpful navigation tool. As you said, they can barely cover a small percentage of new available music as it is, but 10% is still a lot of records, and they go to these places to more or less get the scoop on stuff they might like from more informed listeners who have done more digging.
And it's not as though they necessarily ape whatever the reviewer is endorsing. I know plenty of times I've pulled up music following a glowing review on Pitchfork or Consequence Of Sound only to be utterly dumbfounded as to whatever in the world the reviewer was talking about. In that respect I suppose hip alternative music journalists are no better at figuring out your tastes than your average algorithm. |
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