When can we start talking about the Russians? I mean, if there's a thing we've all learned from the internet is that they're pretty awesome:
Ted Promo
WE CAN GET BACK TO SUCH THINGS, LIRA, IF, AND ONLY IF RANN STOPS MAKING LONG POSTS, WHICH INEXORABLY MEANS THAT SYSTEM J HAS TO RESPOND AT LENGTH TO TELL RANN NOT TO DO SO.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SYSTEM J HAS TO DO.
Ted Promo
IT IS UP TO YOU, RANN.
DJ RANN
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The TL;DR of it is this: It has not been confirmed that Trump has done anything treasonous or impeachable. You are quite clearly desperate for this story to blow up into Trump's downfall, just as you have been for the last year. It's getting a bit ing embarrassing to read now.
I would absolutely love to be proven wrong about this, believe me. But until they actually step up to the press conference and announce they're impeaching him, it's just another cycle of bull that won't stick. Meanwhile your smug commentary is becoming unbearable.
This is exactly the thing I'm talking about; You're trying to craft this argument in to something it's not; Trump hasn't been impeached nor convicted. Show me where I said he has.
It has nothing to do with whether you or I dislike him or not - you're trying to make it an interpretation that I stated Trump has been proven guilty in court of a crime. For the last time, here's what i said.
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The one possible impeachable/treasonous thing (Trump contact with Russian officials) looks like it's about to be confirmed by the Associated Press .....
key words: Possible and looks like.
But you took it as something far more and have been shifting ever since,
Since this they confirmed that he HAS been involved an impeachable/treasonous act; talking to the Russian officials without consent. This is a fact, and a well documented law, and you only have to click on those half dozen links I posted earlier to confirm.
Go back and read those links i posted after you told me this story was nonsense and will "never pan out" - you'll read that Micheal Flynn, Trumps NSA pick has admitted he and others (i.e. Trump) in the administration broke the law and confirmed they have been talking to Russian officials.
Why you keep saying it either isn't True or the AP didn't, is just daft or purposely avoiding my original point, all because you said The original AP report was just another fantasy, and it wasn't, and it has kept panning out ever since.
I'll still agree with you, as I did with Lira etc before you even got in to the fray that it's highly unlikely that anything, including a breach of the Logan act will ever stick to Trump unless the GOP turn on him, which as I said before isn't going to happen while they have power.
Ted Promo
NO, RANN, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
This is exactly the thing I'm talking about; You're trying to craft this argument in to something it's not; Trump hasn't been impeached nor convicted. Show me where I said he has.
You tried to turn this into a cack-handed checkmate that I claimed the story was "fantasy" (a word I've never used) or "nonsense" (never used). I know the bare facts are real - I read about the same story on The Guardian within minutes of you posting it: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...r-trump-dossier
There was no mention of anything treasonous or impeachable occurring, no mention of any laws being broken. It was just the announcement of stuff the White House had known about for days. The key thing I took from it was this:
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Sean Spicer, spokesman for the Trump transition, said Flynn and Kislyak spoke on the phone around the time of the sanctions announcement, although he claimed the conversation happened a day earlier, on 28 December.
“The call centred around the logistics of setting up a call with the president of Russia and the president-elect after he was sworn in, and they exchanged logistical information on how to initiate and schedule that call,” Spicer told reporters on Friday. “That was it, plain and simple.”
Another nothing story, basically.
Then, a day later your triumphant announcement of an FBI investigation (which you linked) isn't even directly related to this contact, but rather an investigation into the dossier. Again, no indication this confirmation of Russian contact is anything illegal, treasonous or impeachable.
All just a storm in the teacup. You've got over-excited about a minor development because you're still gagging for Trump's downfall, so you'll jizz your pants prematurely at the first signs of a new scandal. I expect you to detail this Anonymous threat in excruciating detail until it finally evaporates as well.
So I can happily stick by my original proclamation: nothing you focus on ever turns out to be right, and this will go away without trace. It already has, effectively.
All you've done, for a straight year, is come out with triumphant about how you're going to enjoy watching Trump supporters take it up the ass in November, about how the election is effectively a done deal and how it's almost impossible for Clinton to lose. You've gleefully recounted details of ever impending death blow to Trump. All of it has been completely wrong and Trump has marched on to victory, and you're still sat here jabbering away with no hint of contrition or humility.
The only other person I've seen be wrong so consistently and frequently and show no signs of it affecting his confidence is Trump himself. You're effectively the Donald Trump of TranceAddict. You've even got some ill-defined business assets you love to boast about. I might have to start referring to you as "Donald RANN" until either you or him finally run up on the rocks. It could be a long, long wait.
Lira
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Originally posted by Ted Promo
NO, RANN, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
:stongue:
No, we'll talk about the Russians no matter what happens, Ted! It doesn't matter if we run out of vodka, if the Soviet Union collapses, or if we find out Anna Kournikova never really played tennis. We're here to showcase the best Mother Russia has to offer... And I'm pretty sure the answer is - BREAKS!
Jon_Snow
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Originally posted by Ted Promo
NO, RANN, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
They both can't resist the opportunity to hear themselves talk.
You know the type who corners you at a party and gives you a seemingly endless dissertation on subject you regret bringing up. Exhausting.
SYSTEM-J
You're the life and soul of every party, aren't you IGK?
Jon_Snow
There is nothing wrong with story tellers or people who have something intelligent to say. Unfortunately many times there are people who monopolize the convo and can't pickup on cues that the other person has lost interest 10 minutes ago and are desperately looking for an out.
SYSTEM-J
We can safely say that at parties you stand in the kitchen on your own mumbling cod-psychology to anyone who comes in to get another drink out of the fridge, occasionally trying to join in a conversation where you have nothing really to add.
