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| ViceroySF |
I CAN ONLY SAY THIS FROM A POSITION OF EXUBERANCE AND LOFTY COMFORT, AQUIRED BY BEING PRIVILEDGED THROUGHOUT MY LIFE.
IT IS NATURAL TO WISH THE SAME TO OTHERS WHO HAVEN'T. |
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| ziptnf |
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...trump/96414062/
Welp, here we go folks. Trump is being blackmailed by Russia.
https://www.documentcloud.org/docum...llegations.html
From Page 2, Paragraph 3
| quote: | | According to Source D where s/he had been present, Trump’s (perverted) conduct in Moscow included hiring the presidential suite of the Ritz Carlton Hotel, here he knew President and Mrs Obama (whom he hated) had stayed on one of their official trips to Russia, and defiling the bed where they had slept by employ a number of prostitutes to perform a ‘golden showers’ (urination) show in front of him. The hotel was known to be under FSB control with microphones and concealed cameras in all the main rooms to record anything they wanted to. |
Possibly the biggest scandal in American political history.
Inb4 fake/wall/troll/liberaltears/etc |
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| Lira |
I, for one, welcome our new Adidas wearing overlords. Even got my trackies in advance :D #СделаемАмерикуВеликойСнова
Ps.: No, wait, can't be just be framed as the new Bunga Bunga and turn Trump into the world's newest Berlusconi? We've all seen this before! |
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| ziptnf |
Good summary of the released documents:
| quote: | 8+ years of communication between him and Kremlin, and 5+ year relationship of cultivating/supporting/assisting Trump by Russia.
They offered him real estate deals IN RUSSIA to further ensnare him, but he declined.
Russia has dirt on Trump watching Russian prostitutes give golden showers.
Detailed claims of bilateral intelligence sharing back and forth between Trump and Putin. Trump had DNC moles and used US as well as foreign hackers. Trump got info on his opponents, Putin got info on Russian oligarchs + families living in US.
They used the pension system that Russian diplomats used to transfer information back and forth to/from each other as well. It mentions tens of thousands of dollars were sent in addition to the money.
Russia's main goal appears to be driving wedges to cause divisions in the West. They aided Jill Stein, Carter Page and Michael Flynn (the latter two being members of Trump's team) in doing so.
Main goal of DNC emails appeared to be swinging Sanders voters to Trump.
Russia and Trump had a mutual agreement on the DNC hack. Russia released the emails to Wikileaks in return for Trump removing mention of Russian invasion of Crimea in favor of talking about NATO financial commitments in Eastern Europe and the Baltics.
Putin wanted people to stop talking Ukraine while also undermining NATO.
Trump's most damning financial commitments are actually in China and other emerging markets. He's paid large bribes and kickbacks there that would've destroyed his campaign if made public.
Hilariously, when Trump said he had few Russian financial investments, that was true, but he has actively sought them out only to be denied. He apparently settled for extensive sexual favors there instead
Trump lawyer Cohen had clandestine meeting with Kremlin operatives in August, held in Prague to try to make it seem less suspicious.
Ukrainian President that Putin installed confided to Putin he DID provide ex-campaign manager Manafort w/ kickbacks that were previously reported. Left no paper trail.
Russia pissed this has gotten so much media coverage. They hoped to push for improved Russian-US relationships regardless of who was elected. Ancillary goal with Clinton was to drive her positions further from Obama's in event she won - they're happy both candidates were anti-TPP because they viewed that as bad for them.
Trump has bribed Russian business interests but worked diligently to obfuscate and eliminate paper trail. Also engaged in Russian sex parties but has likewise bribed or coerced witnesses to be silent. They do believe a particular Russian businessman was intricately linked to Trump would know details.
Manafort/Page/Cohen all highly compromised. They/Trump were apparently offered up to 19% stake in Russian STATE-OWNED oil company Rosneft by its president if they could successfully get Western Russian sanctions lifted. Page expressed interest in this deal, saying sanctions would be lifted.
Once the sh*t started to hit the fan, Cohen was heavily involved in trying to cover up the relationship between Carter/Manafort/himself and Russia.
Mentions that the Trump team AND Russia both paid Romanian hackers to help sabotage Democrats.
Overall goal of electing Trump was to destabilize Western and world order in Russia's favor since he was anti-establishment and so divisive.
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| Lira |
Seriously, though, I'm not holding my breath.
The guy said he'd grab women by their genitals. He failed to release his tax returns. He asked Russia, during a debate, to hack Hillary's email account. He mocked a disabled journalist. He claimed he could get away with murder. The guy claimed Hillary started the birther movement he himself spearheaded. I mean, don't colour me surprised if this fails to damage him (any further), unless Republicans manage to ditch him somehow.
Besides, there are now rumours this has been fabricated by 4chan so, if this does happen to be true, he'll be able to rely on fake news as a cushion. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| But he's just trolling with this one too, right? |
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| soulstar606 |
| if u r questioning whether he might be trolling then he has already trolled u:disbelief |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| You really are quite exceptionally dumb. |
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| ziptnf |
| It takes a rare kind of stupid to not be objective on this one. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Seriously, though, I'm not holding my breath.
The guy said he'd grab women by their genitals. He failed to release his tax returns. He asked Russia, during a debate, to hack Hillary's email account. He mocked a disabled journalist. He claimed he could get away with murder. The guy claimed Hillary started the birther movement he himself spearheaded. I mean, don't colour me surprised if this fails to damage him (any further), unless Republicans manage to ditch him somehow. |
This =/ |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Seriously, though, I'm not holding my breath.
The guy said he'd grab women by their genitals. He failed to release his tax returns. He asked Russia, during a debate, to hack Hillary's email account. He mocked a disabled journalist. He claimed he could get away with murder. The guy claimed Hillary started the birther movement he himself spearheaded. I mean, don't colour me surprised if this fails to damage him (any further), unless Republicans manage to ditch him somehow.
Besides, there are now rumours this has been fabricated by 4chan so, if this does happen to be true, he'll be able to rely on fake news as a cushion. |
You're right except one thing; all the things you're talking about are not impeachable or legally treasonous/criminal acts and none of them were committed under oath.
Even the Golden-gate (there's not enough popcorn on the planet to watch this one unfold) if proven, probably won't be enough to get him impeached (unless the video actually surfaces, which it won't) but what is a a deal breaker beyond anything else we've seen so far, is the one specific claim:
Trumps associates/team have been in contact with Russian officials for the last 5 years.
If even a shred of that turns out to be true, it's over for Trump.
That's trading official secrets and colluding with a foreign government. He can grab all day long and brag about it but you can't be passing info to foreign officials.
And the problem with it is, his people will not be facing lawsuits or investigations that can be financially settled by him they'll be face serious jail time in max security federal jails and they will roll in a heartbeat.
Apparently the BBC has already found provable inconsistencies with the report but the British MI5 agent that collated the info is said to be a historically "reliable source" by the US security agencies and that info passed on in the past has been credible and verifiable. |
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