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The world is phucked up (pg. 4)
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| Az |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
Hey P'zazz:
Seeing as you find only those actions that promote good health and longevity in any way justifiable, I may remind you of the damage you cause to yourself every day. Perhaps you'd like to change your mode of living to ensure that you in no way run the risk of damaging your body or your somewhat pointless goal of living to the age of 150:
Mobile phones, televisions, computer screens and many other modern amenities emit vast quantities of radiation that - quite apart from the relatively short term risks such as short term memory loss - can cause radioation poisoning, several different types of cancer, and many other serious health problems. What is to be done then? Do we ban these things? Should we smash all mobile phones, melt all television sets and burn all computers to ensure that no-one suffers health problems when they turn 90?
And what about the food we eat? Both too much and too little fibre in ones diet can cause bowel cancer and other health problems relating to to the digestive tract. How do we strike a careful balance then? Should we force supermarkets to use scales to determine just how much fibre is in the food we eat (so long as they don't attach these scales to a computer screen - which causes cancer you know)? Also, food with high fat content can cause heart problems in the long term, whereas a diet with too little fat can cause more immediate health risks (particularly amongst pre-pubescent children). Should we have police in every supermarket ensuring that people neither overstep nor understep their necessary daily calorie intake? Did you know that seperate studies have labelled both red meat and tic-tacs as carcinogenic? Should we ban all barbeques and minty-fresh breath as a result? Lettuce, fish, peas, peanuts, rice, biscuits and any food containing salt have also been linked with cancer (see here and here), so in the interests of prolonging life for as long as possible, should we ban all these foodstuffs as well? After all, these things may prevent us from living a long life right?
And what about cars? According to a study that I read recently, 10 million ecstacy pills have been consumed in Australia in the past decade and 15 deaths have been directly linked to it (and even then, it's usually the result of a deadly cocktail of drugs or ignorance of how to use the drug safely - plenty of water, but not too much, plenty of rest time, not ridiculously large amounts of the drug at one time etc.). So do the math: even if I disregard the reasons leading to deaths caused by ecstacy, if you take a pill in Australia - based on the mortality rate I outlined above - you have a 1 / 666,000 chance of dying. If you drive a car - according to road fatality rates - your odds of dying are 1 / 12,000. Therefore, the odds of you dying from driving a car are 55 times greater than the odds of you dying from taking ecstacy - which constitutes the greater risk?
What then of the dangers caused by products found in our homes? Those such as perfumes, deodorants, soaps, detergents and toothpaste? Exposure to these "legal" products must be okay, right? Perhaps this report may interest you:
http://www.ourlittleplace.com/chemicals.html
Even those of you living in a big city are no better off. Did you know that "Air pollution kills an estimated 2.7 million to 3.0 million people every year" or, to put it another way, causes "about 6% of all deaths annually"? What's the answer? Should the inhabitants of these economic centres disperse into rural areas, destroying both the economy and the decentralised envirnoments they move to in the process? Or perhaps they should spend their time inside where they can no longer be harmed by pollutants? Or perhaps not: "About 2.5 billion people, almost all in developing countries, suffer from high levels of indoor air pollution" (http://www.jhuccp.org/pr/m15/m15chap2.stm)..... where should we go then? Space perhaps, to escape the health risks caused by the very act of living in this planet?
Did you know that space travel has been linked with kidney problems and protein deficiencies (45% less protein synthesis according to this article) which is not to speak of the obvious dangers caused by direct exposure to the sun's harmful rays? It seems to me, mate, that the only way to avoid the harms of living the human life is to end it all now - after all, one cannot be harmed once one is dead, right?
Anyway, I think I've made my point.
All I'm trying to say is that the totality of the experience of life is merely that tiny sliver of time which separates the past and the future. Anyone who mortgages this tiny sliver of pleasure for a tiny sliver at some distant point in the future, is one who is missing the point of our short existence on this lonely rock we call home.
I smoke, I drink, I do the occasional pill and I've enjoyed every second of it. If I were to die tomorrow, I would not feel the slightest pang of regret for the way that I have lived my life, nor for the long list of hedonistic sensations that constitute it.
So, my wise friend, why the hell should you feel regret for the life that I have enjoyed and - above all - for the life I have chosen for myself? Perhaps when you stop viewing the internet through your computer screen, abstain from fish meat and tic-tacs, give up your car and stop breathing in the air that surrounds you, then you can come preaching to me about self-preservation, but - until then - I can leave you only with one final sentiment: "On a long enough time scale, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero".
Welcome to mortality my friend. :) |
Renegade, thank you, always a pleasure to read your well thought out posts, if I didn't have an attention span of 30 seconds, I'd probably try and emulate something similar ;)
And before anyone says it, it's not down to the drugs, more like the radiation from TV, Mobile Phone and Monitor :p
Yet again I'd still like to know what drugs P`zazz is talking about :stongue: |
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| Slylee |
ok so let me get this straight....just because it's a risk to get in your car and drive and just because there is air pollution due to reasons beyond our control, it's the same thing as popping ecstacy to get high?? hahahahah i can't believe someone went as far as to use cell phones as a valid arguement about us harming ourselves... and a person who takes advil (in my opinion) for a headache is VERY different than the junkies who take drugs for reasons other than the relief of pain. i'm pretty sure it can be assumed that the meaning of "drug" in this thread was referring to illicit drugs like "e" and acid etc....not tylenol:rolleyes:
i know i will get flamed for this but oh well...the more i have matured and decided to eliminate chronic drug use from my life the more i can step aside and just observe for a moment. the sticky thread about ecstacy - users bible is the biggest f***** joke if i've ever seen one. going ON and ON and ON about how to take drugs the "safe" way by knowing what you're getting and being aware of warning signs that may KILL you if you ignore them...how the hell do you expect to be on the lookout for warning signs of death if you are high as a kite in a club while one of the biggest DJ's in the world is spinning? not to mention you won't even feel these symptoms! it just doesn't make sense to me. God gave us seratonin and a perfectly legit system to determine how much of it we should need on a daily basis. but of course it's not good enough. i remember being at Mecca last year while Oakey was playing the set of a lifetime and seeing like 20 teenagers lined up against the wall sitting on their ass, grinding their teeth and totally unable to comprehend what was going on around them....it was just beyond me.
| quote: | Originally posted by Az
Renegade, thank you, always a pleasure to read your well thought out posts, if I didn't have an attention span of 30 seconds, I'd probably try and emulate something similar |
i rest my case... |
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| Az |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
i rest my case... |
wtf :conf: |
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| Slylee |
| just a joke..chill:p |
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| P`zazz |
| Slylee my point of you is 100% the same as yours even though I have never used drugs (pharmaceutical drugs excluded az). But please az don't start arguing again, I respect your point of view and I fully understand what you are trying to say. |
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| Dumonde Trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by tranceDJ
*Waits for someone to say "trance is my drug!":rolleyes:
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yeh its such a gimpish cliché on here :stongue: |
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| biznology |
| quote: | Originally posted by P`zazz
Slylee my point of you is 100% the same as yours even though I have never used drugs (pharmaceutical drugs excluded az). But please az don't start arguing again, I respect your point of view and I fully understand what you are trying to say. |
ok basically pzazz i want to flame you because you refuse to even read peoples responses...thats real intelligent and openminded.
i wont.
i just know/hope that some day you meet someone who knows something about drugs in a context other than these forums in order to realize that people arent 'bad' because of drugs.
keep avoiding drugs and those that do them. youll have a great life living to 105 - doing what? i dunno| |
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| Dumonde Trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by P`zazz
I started reading the replies but I stopped as ppl started flaming and insulting me so I wont bother, guess I was expecting this
and I didn't make this thread to try and make people stop smoking or taking drugs, I just share my view which says that smoking/drugs are bad, but still so many ppl take them and I would like to know the reasons why they do it, not 'stfu you don't know about drugs' -
don't be a and start act like a child. |
im not being like a child you nob.
i gave u an example, you have never taken drugs and wont understand why people do because you have never experienced the effects which is why peopel take them?
capiche? |
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| Az |
| quote: | Originally posted by P`zazz
Slylee my point of you is 100% the same as yours even though I have never used drugs (pharmaceutical drugs excluded az). But please az don't start arguing again, I respect your point of view and I fully understand what you are trying to say. |
arguing, I just want to know what the hell you're talking about, and you blatantly don't understand what I'm talking about, because if you did you'd answer the question I've been asking you since page 1!!!
Just for the record, I don't do drugs, not any good ones anyway :stongue: |
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| P`zazz |
AZ I do understand what you are trying to say, and what question would you like me to answer?
@Dumonde Trance - You are right, I have never taken drugs and I don't know what it's like, but thank god I have a pair of eyes and I can see whats going on around me and where people end up for using drugs and that gives me an idea and helps me keep away from that |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by biznology
ok basically pzazz i want to flame you because you refuse to even read peoples responses...thats real intelligent and openminded.
i wont.
i just know/hope that some day you meet someone who knows something about drugs in a context other than these forums in order to realize that people arent 'bad' because of drugs.
keep avoiding drugs and those that do them. youll have a great life living to 105 - doing what? i dunno| |
what a great philosophy on life...jesus you scare me. and i don't think he's saying people are bad...he just doesn't understand why. |
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| Dumonde Trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by P`zazz
@Dumonde Trance - You are right, I have never taken drugs and I don't know what it's like, but thank god I have a pair of eyes and I can see whats going on around me and where people end up for using drugs and that gives me an idea and helps me keep away from that |
no you dont have eyes, oh wait you do, you watch the new with them i suppose, and read all that bullcrap.
true durgs up SOME peoples lives, but most people with half a braincell i nthere head knows not tdo stupdi like smack, crack, geebee. there is two sides to the drug coin as well, street drugs and club drugs. i dont knwo where the you get ur ideals from, oh wait, yes i do, but jsut because you dont liek drugs keans everyone who takes them is a up, is gonan die, and steal from ur house. maybe if there wernt so many in narrow minded people in the world like you, it would be a better place, so until you have truly been there and know ANYTHING of any substance about drugs, you jsut spouting arrogant cliché bull mate.
and you never answered me, do you drink? |
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