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Fragma- Man in Motion (pg. 2)
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| montana |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hydarnes
Not a ripoff in the least. They totally eclipsed the original cafe del mar with this song. Damae's vocals sound absolutely divine, and it adds so much to the tune. |
i have heard the track in question, and i will never forgive ramon zenker for this, butchering cafe del mar and placing the vocal, i mean c'mon. the original mix is a ripoff of the cosmic baby mix |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hydarnes
Not a joke at all. The only reason why the song is being defamed is because of some prejudice for the original cafe del mar tune.
The vocals are actually what makes this song so breathtaking (albeit limited, which is one of the only negative aspects to the song), and combined with the cafe del mar sound it's uber!!! |
You are wrong.
And no, this is not a matter of opinion. |
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| Dan1584 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
You are wrong.
And no, this is not a matter of opinion. |
:rolleyes: You never cease to disgust me.
Anyway ... I haven't heard the track in question. I can't imagine what vocals on top of such an ace tune would sound like but I'm willing to give it (and it's remixes) a chance before I pee all over it. |
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| Hydarnes |
Not butchery at all, it's called "improvement." The original cafe del mar song wasn't even that good without vocals. Besides, what really got me to like the song was Damae's voice, not the cafe del mar sample...
The original song seriously lacked variation in tune, and this is just the infusion that the doctor ordered to make the song a whole lot better!
The only reason for angry sentiment on the part of a few people is partiality for the original song, not unadulterated evaluation. |
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| DRM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hydarnes
Not butchery at all, it's called "improvement." The original cafe del mar song wasn't even that good without vocals. Besides, what really got me to like the song was Damae's voice, not the cafe del mar sample...
The original song seriously lacked variation in tune, and this is just the infusion that the doctor ordered to make the song a whole lot better!
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thats some good
you have much to learn my young paedewan |
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| Hydarnes |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dan1584
:rolleyes: You never cease to disgust me.
Anyway ... I haven't heard the track in question. I can't imagine what vocals on top of such an ace tune would sound like but I'm willing to give it (and it's remixes) a chance before I pee all over it. |
The vocals sound absolutely divine and it pulls you right in, trust me!
What's your email address? I'll send it to you.
There actually are a few negative aspects to "Man in the Moon", being that there is too little vocal infusion, the song is too short, and a different synth sound for the main melody would have, of course, been preferable. Nevertheless, the song shines as one of the best from Fragma (courtesy of Damae's vocals)! |
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| Project 7 |
WHo the hell are Fragma :conf:
Are these the people who made "toca dream" or something
If so, i will pray to God tonight i will never hear this |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dan1584
:rolleyes: You never cease to disgust me.
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And you never cease to... uh... wait... was I talking to you? |
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| Hydarnes |
Yes, "Toca's Miracle" was a horrific song, and does not do justice to Fragma's amazing talent.
Actually, it's amusing how no one criticizes Fragma for borrowing Coco's vocal melody and incorporating it into "Toca Me", and yet "Man in the Moon" merely does the reverse by adding tune to original vocals. Again, the only reason why the latter gets any flak is because they borrowed from "cafe del mar"--a terribly poor justification for disparaging the song. |
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| starglider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hydarnes
Yes, "Toca's Miracle" was a horrific song, and does not do justice to Fragma's amazing talent.
Actually, it's amusing how no one criticizes Fragma for borrowing Coco's vocal melody and incorporating it into "Toca Me", and yet "Man in the Moon" merely does the reverse by adding tune to original vocals. |
Sampling vocals is widely done by just about everyone and is nothing at all like remaking an entire song. Your comparison is invalid... much like your opinion. You are perfectly welcome to say you like Fragma, and I'll defend that right if need be, but you can't say Fragma have "amazing talent" without being corrected. Sorry. |
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| Hydarnes |
Thank you for your opinion starglider, but the error in your diagnosis of what Fragma has done to cafe del mar lies in the fact that they didn't remake the "whole song". They sampled the synth line and added original vocals.
It might help your point to actually make one. |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hydarnes
They sampled the synth line and added original vocals.
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They didn't just sample it, they used the entire melody as the foundation for the tune, without crediting the producers of Cafe del Mar in any way whatsoever. This is what is called a ripoff. On top of that they used the melody from one of the most obvious, most popular and most remixed trance tunes ever. Is this your idea of talent? |
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