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DJ NGE
quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
Ill judge you peeps-
Just upload to the ftp in a folder called KaoS and name your files mix1 and mix2
you two figure out who is who. lol
Ill post results when im done.


all right, thx dude

please judge until 2nd of june - that's our day of expiration *lol*

i'll tell my challenger ;)


edit: i'll do my mix tomorrow and will also upload it tomorrow ;)
Project T
quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
You could always challenge someone else. ;)

You can have one challenge out and be challenged.


yea but i can't be arsed lol :p
xKaoSx
quote:
Originally posted by Project T
yea but i can't be arsed lol :p


Thats ok- you sit around idle and after 7 days you start losing points. I think ill challenge ya while you're gone next week. ;)

You'll be arsed!
:whip: :whip: :whip:
:nervous: :eyespop: :eyes:
Dj Flesch
I've read all of the posts reguarding my judging the sound quality etc. I will still judge that way because I feel that it is important. It's not like I'm going to dock you more than a point or two if I notice several sound defects. I realize that cds skip and records pop, hiss and crackle. But as a Dj, I think that it takes away from the professionality of the mix and so I place a small amount of value on it. Remember that vinyl imperfections will MAYBE be one point or two if they are really bad. I'm not going to dock points for one pop or crackle in a couple of minor spots. But when it is bad during a crutial moment of silence for several seconds and you can hear it quite a bit during the first minute or last minute of a set, then I think that it's work taking a point off.

Anyway, if you don't like the way I judge, then don't ask me to be your judge ;p It's as simple as that. There are several people who are willing to judge!


Also, on a side note, Kaos and T, do you have a problem if I reuse the mix that I made that never got judged?
Dj Flesch
I just challenged Emono, could someone volenteer to be a judge for us?
xKaoSx
quote:
Originally posted by Dj Flesch
I've read all of the posts reguarding my judging the sound quality etc. I will still judge that way because I feel that it is important. It's not like I'm going to dock you more than a point or two if I notice several sound defects. I realize that cds skip and records pop, hiss and crackle. But as a Dj, I think that it takes away from the professionality of the mix and so I place a small amount of value on it. Remember that vinyl imperfections will MAYBE be one point or two if they are really bad. I'm not going to dock points for one pop or crackle in a couple of minor spots. But when it is bad during a crutial moment of silence for several seconds and you can hear it quite a bit during the first minute or last minute of a set, then I think that it's work taking a point off.

Anyway, if you don't like the way I judge, then don't ask me to be your judge ;p It's as simple as that. There are several people who are willing to judge!


Also, on a side note, Kaos and T, do you have a problem if I reuse the mix that I made that never got judged?


I think it should be ok to use the same mix as long as its not the same person or judge-
So yea- sure. should I leave it in there? I will take it out and let me know if you get challenged.
Dj Flesch
quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
I think it should be ok to use the same mix as long as its not the same person or judge-
So yea- sure. should I leave it in there? I will take it out and let me know if you get challenged.


Okay, cool, I just challenged Emono and am looking for a judge now! I'll use that mix.
Dj Flesch
quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
Well - Flesch's judging his own way- its not a template or anything- All judges will judge different.

Speaking of which- I need a judge for live tonight in TA -
6-7 pm Pacific time? If not we'll just record.


If this is the challenge between you and TommyD, then I am listening to mix1 in the challenge folder now. I'm awaiting the second mix :)
emono
dj_KaoS vs. TommyD

i decided to go by my own standards, although, of course, many of the areas in Flesch's criteria will be taken into consideration.

Mix 1

very creative. started off with a nice introductory scratch; ended with a massive drop into a sample of some macabre laugh.
there was so much creativity, actually, that it was hard to handle for the dj. a lot of layering; sometimes very effective. other times, it left me disoriented, in terms of phrasematching. also, there was one very noticeable overlaying of vocals between two very classic vocal tracks; resulting in a take-back-and-re-try. flowed very well and it was perfectly beatmatched; mixing was a bit rough, as well as volume matchings. adding to the creativy and originality of the set, there were a few scratches before kick-ins, which were very effective. it had the artist's signature all over.


Mix 2

proggy build-up at the beginning; followed by a proggy build-up into trance. key mixing and harmonics were effective for each of the two sections of the set: there was the beginning, with two songs remixed by the same producer; one having a sample of the third which i found effective during the silet break-down. switching to trance could have been more subtle; mixing became a bit rough between the G&D remix and the AVB remix; followed by an off sampling of the same sample used earlier. key mixing for the second section was, again, effective. mixing was only rough only in three sections; one of them being the only noticeable..erroneus volume-matching. it could have been a better set had it had an ending. the connection seems to have cut; or perhaps stopped by the dj. once again, artist's signature all over his work.


if it were possible to have ties,
this would be one of the few cases
seeing that the two mixes need work in complementary areas.
however,
judging by the mixing abilities, which take a major part in my criteria,
Mix 2 is the winning set this round.




Flesch,
challenge noted.
Nrg2Nfinit
tommyD vs chaos (respective order ) results


Mix 1

time: 21:32 - 22:11
tot : 39 mins

Tracklisting:


Intro...
1. chicane... saltwater (thrillseekers)
2. Altitude... Tears in the rain
3. The Roc Project... Never (Tiesto)
4. Body-shock... Ghosts in the church
5. System F... Dance Valley theme
6. OceanLab... Clear Bleu Water (Corsten)
7. Jan Johnston... Calling your name (Neo & Farina Remix)
8. Headstrong... Escalator
... Outro!

4/4pts Intro Track
8/10pts Consistent Beatmatching
8/10pts Consistent Phrasematching
8/10pts Track Key Matching, Volume Matching and Gain Structure
9/10pts Track Selection
7/10pts Mixing Style/Originality
2/3pts Effects
4/5pts Track Order
3/3pts Exit Track
55/65

84 %

awesome track selection 1 unsure mix.. cut out.. try not to overlay vocals
-some scratching on buildups.. well cued
very uplifting.. watch when fast mixing try to know tracks better

Mix 2

time: 22:15 -23:03
48 mins


Tracklisting:

1) depeche mode - i feel loved (lexicon avenue remix)
2) jewel - intuition (markus schulz remix) volume a bit loud 22:21
3) duncan sheik - on a high (gabriel and Dresden remix) 22:29
4) solar stone - seven cities (armin van buren mix) vocals still in.. very good off cue 22:34
5) Hydra - affinity (thrillseekers dub)bit of a skip drifting too long mix was a bit weak 22:40
6) chicane - autumn tactics (thrillseekers remix) nice trailing with the melody from the track before 22:45
7) green court - silent heart (wippenberg remix) (mixed from second buildup) 22:52
8) Midtone - Pearl (Darren Christian Remix) 22:57

4/4pts Intro Track
9/10pts Consistent Beatmatching
8/10pts Consistent Phrasematching
8/10pts Track Key Matching, Volume Matching and Gain Structure
10/10pts Track Selection
9/10pts Mixing Style/Originality
1/3pts Effects
5/5pts Track Order
2/3pts Exit Track

56/65

86%

great progression.. transitions need more work tho very good knowledge of tracks and nice sampleing
clean mixing of progressive
great trance at the end too


These are the results from my judging

great mixes to both.. very nice to see you guys trying to cram as many tracks in in as short as possible.. congratulations kaos if you do end up wiinning this round

good luck to both of you on your next challenges!


Nrg2Nfinit

tommyd
Doh! Beaten by 1 point! sounds like it was a great match, i wish i could have heard your mix, can u upload it if u get the chance? Thanks
xKaoSx
quote:
Originally posted by tommyd
Doh! Beaten by 1 point! sounds like it was a great match, i wish i could have heard your mix, can u upload it if u get the chance? Thanks


If i can get my sound forge fixed- it's messed- its in wav form right now. I spose I could get a wav - mp3 thing
:(
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