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TIESTO Interview - 2nd Solo Concert October (pg. 4)
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| chesco |
The point is he's doing this solely for the money, not to take his music to the the people, if he wanted to spread his music to others he would do the concert in a different country, but he does it in the netherlands, where he knows he will sell tickets. Dance music was never meant for these commercial concerts, like tiesto's.
He's living of a name tag he doesn't deserve and making plenty at the same time. IMO it's not fair to dj's that have really contributed to building the scene. however this clown comes along, plays the tunes you all want to hear and suddenly he's the greatest thing ever. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by chesco
The point is he's doing this solely for the money, not to take his music to the the people, if he wanted to spread his music to others he would do the concert in a different country, but he does it in the netherlands, where he knows he will sell tickets. |
Tiesto gigs around the world all the time. Obviously he's going to do the biggest gigs where he's most known because he'd have a hard time filling the stadiums elsewhere. Do you think, say, Oasis (or whatever) could fill a stadium somewhere where only a fraction of people know them let alone like them?
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Dance music was never meant for these commercial concerts, like tiesto's. |
Why not? And how do you know it wasn't? Because it isn't cool if it's not underground?
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He's living of a name tag he doesn't deserve and making plenty at the same time. IMO it's not fair to dj's that have really contributed to building the scene. however this clown comes along, plays the tunes you all want to hear and suddenly he's the greatest thing ever. |
It is only when people get jealous and start backstabbing you when you know you truly are on the top.
I'm not the #1 fan of Tiesto but people like you just make me sick. If you don't like him just keep listening to your cool underground stuff nobody has heard of and stop bitching. Whether Tiesto makes money or not has no effect on your life whatsoever. |
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| T_2199 |
| quote: | Originally posted by chesco
Dance music was never meant for these commercial concerts, like tiesto's.
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Ok when you say it chesco the big god of EDM set the rules!! :rolleyes:
And I donīt see a bad thing about this being a commercial concert if he continues to play the quality trance tracks..
I donīt care if 25.000 people enjoy the same music like I do or just 1.000 cool underground people like you.. |
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
how can you say that? there are still TONS of hip hop producers that use samples to make their music. and if you look at the artist that do sample, they are widely considered to be the best hip hop producers. Pete Rock, DJ Premier, Large Professor, etc. you are getting a little too 'technical' here just to prove your point. for example, Nelly - Ride with Me did not sample anything. which means it was probably created using a beat machine. you would consider that an electronic dance song even though the whole thing is a guitar? no. hip hop is hip hop. you're one of probably 12 people in the world who consider hip hop a form of Electronica.
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But IT IS edm, that's history. Anyone that has a clue about edm history knows that hip hop is yet one more offspring genre of the pioneers of adding a dance beat to electronic music. The German band Kraftwerk influenced Afrika Bombataa and the blooming scene of electro funk in the Brooklyn/the Bronx where hip hop was born as much as those beats influenced Saunderson and Atkins in Detroit techno.
Yes, most MCs today are popstars and not edm artists, but the essence of the music is still as EDM today as when it all started. Even the very commercial stuff like Nelly-Hot in Herre is a genius edm song because of the Neptunes' production. But those MCs are analogous to Sammy in trance.
| quote: | Originally posted by chesco
The point is he's doing this solely for the money, not to take his music to the the people, if he wanted to spread his music to others he would do the concert in a different country, but he does it in the netherlands, where he knows he will sell tickets. Dance music was never meant for these commercial concerts, like tiesto's.
He's living of a name tag he doesn't deserve and making plenty at the same time. IMO it's not fair to dj's that have really contributed to building the scene. however this clown comes along, plays the tunes you all want to hear and suddenly he's the greatest thing ever. |
Yet another gimp who doesn't have a clue about edm history. Are you dense or what? Who are you to say that dance music was never meant for commercial concerts? Karl Marx? Or maybe you're just 12. Music is a business, and you have to play the game to survive in it. TiC is done in Holland because that's where the biggest market is and that is home country. And there are plans to take it abroad, but you obviously have no idea of all the effort it takes to pull off something like this.
Tiesto has been a pioneer, an innovator and a great influence on the way edm has shaped in the whole WORLD over the last 5 years. Playing the tunes you all want to hear? I recommend you do a search of the time he announced he wasn't doing any more Magiks because it didn't fit his current style, everyone bashed him because Magik was the sound they wanted to hear, but now that's all changed because people realized (after the visionary position of Tijs) that that pure fluffy melodic generic formula was becoming stale and anachronistic. After he abandoned the formula and diversified his appeal he became #1, and now millions of people around the world have been exposed to different styles that they wouldn't have appreciated before.
Also I wanted to say, that Tiesto in Concert was not more commercial than events such as I love Techno and Awakenings. I went to all of these and it was pretty much the same premise. I don't have a doubt that any of those djs with an above average IQ would love to be in Tijs' position and play solo concerts themselves. It's common sense. |
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| chesco |
A concert based around one dj is nothing like i love techno.
My point is there are many more people who have fifty time the talent tiesto does who built the scene which he currently rides on top of making as much money as he can while he's there.
My opinion is that tiesto's in it for the money, thats my opinion, it's not wrong because it's an opinion.
I apoligise if i never researched everything that is tiesto before i made the post....
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by chesco
A concert based around one dj is nothing like i love techno.
My point is there are many more people who have fifty time the talent tiesto does who built the scene which he currently rides on top of making as much money as he can while he's there.
My opinion is that tiesto's in it for the money, thats my opinion, it's not wrong because it's an opiion.
I apoligise if i never researched everything that is tiesto before i made the post....
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it is a big event with a lot of capital involved just like TiC. I went to both parties, the commercial sense pretty much seemed the same. Did you go to both parties?
after the Silence remix he could've easily become another Sammy or Ian van Dahl and make much more money than he did back then but he didn't. in fact, he even drifted from the melodic sound that is and was equated with commercialism.
My opinion is that you're not very smart, that's my opinion, it's not wrong because it's an opinion. :stongue: |
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| chesco |
| quote: | Originally posted by YaleTrance
it is a big event with a lot of capital involved just like TiC. I went to both parties, the commercial sense pretty much seemed the same. Did you go to both parties?
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With ILT evrey dj gets his fee, with TiC tiesto will get everything after costs have been settled. Theres the difference. I love techno is a festival of techno, TiC is a festival of tiesto.
I'm all for him doing it as a one off, as you say it makes good business sense, and it was a great spectacle. But to do it twice suggests theres a bit of greed starting to come into play.
Not everything in EDM is about who can make the most money, unlike pop music, hip hop etc.
as you say tho' i'm stupid, so i'm not going to say anymore on the matter.:rolleyes: |
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| TeKnoHe@d2025 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
you are getting a little too 'technical' here just to prove your point. you're one of probably 12 people in the world who consider hip hop a form of Electronica. |
Ever see Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music? He reconizes hip-hop/rap as a form of EDM. I'm not saying that thing is 100% accurate, but that part of it makes sense. See, there are those on here that are too ignorant to realize that it is indeed a form of EDM, just because they don't like it or want to associate it with the type of music that they enjoy. It all makes sense if you think about it for more than 2 seconds. :rolleyes: |
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| fcuk von dutch |
this is a MESSage board if Ive ever seen one....
Tiesto is where he is because of popularity, not skillz....
The man is way talented, but DJ Mag's poll is ridiculous....
I hear the kid repping Zabiela, but its only a matter of time before he experiences the same back lash Tiesto is right now....
In all honesty, the sentiments on this board are pathetic enough to make me sick! No wonder why every other genre's fans hate trance: its all about DJ worshipping, and not the muzik.... Its ridiculous. |
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| paranoik0 |
quite honestly, if tiesto wants to make a pipe of money, what's wrong with it? hasn't he given enough to the EDM scene? if you were in his place, would you get the opportunity to make a fortune, or go ultra underground? remember that he's getting old too.
but yeah, tiesto in concert 2.. sounds like he's getting out of ideas. i can't see his mega popularity going for much longer. |
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| TeKnoHe@d2025 |
| Now, back on topic. If you do something and it turns out to be a big success (like the first TiC) wouldn't you want to continue/build on that success? Remember, the majority of the money that an artist makes comes from concert, tours, and gigs. I see nothing wrong with Tiesto doing another concert. |
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| Haunted |
| ishkur's guide to edm is a joke, literally |
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