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Bending spoons (pg. 9)
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| Boomer187 |
I don't your looking for melting points below body temperature.....if those spoons and forks were made of that thsoe people would have a puddle in their hands.
rather we are looking at metals that become malleable when around body temperature.
And I don't get it, I have bent a lot of spoons digging into my ice cream, or forks when delving into my moms burnt meatloaf.
anyways. Lets say I wanted to have one of these parties. Do I need a specialist ? or can I just get a group together and read off some instructions? plus about how many people do I need?
this owuld be cool to do....then start drinking :) |
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| Flyboy217 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Boomer187
I don't your looking for melting points below body temperature.....if those spoons and forks were made of that thsoe people would have a puddle in their hands.
rather we are looking at metals that become malleable when around body temperature.
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Agreed. So the metal would probably be an alloy of one of those elements, or else a shape-memory alloy like Nitinol. In the case of my friends, it is apparently neither.
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And I don't get it, I have bent a lot of spoons digging into my ice cream, or forks when delving into my moms burnt meatloaf.
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Of course. Bending the neck of a spoon is not particularly difficult. Check out the links again. Specifically, check out the following quote by Dr. Radin:
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In 2000, I attended a spoon-bending "party" in which I was able to observe, close-up, people attempting to bend spoons. I decided in advance that the only bend I might find interesting would be of the bowl of a spoon, because to do this without tools and/or leverage is beyond the capability of most people, including myself. |
In addition, twisting the handle around in a corkscrew is also nigh-on impossible to do with a sturdy spoon. This was a feat my female friend could perform only at the party. Afterwards, she hurt herself trying to untwist it.
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anyways. Lets say I wanted to have one of these parties. Do I need a specialist ? or can I just get a group together and read off some instructions? plus about how many people do I need?
this owuld be cool to do....then start drinking :) |
Mr. Houck says fewer than 15 is usually futile, and 25+ is suggested. You don't need a specialist. In fact, it's probably better you don't have one, to lessen the likelihood of professional illusionism. In addition, it apparently helps if you're at least willing to believe it could be real. You certainly don't have to believe in advance--Radin, Crichton, and my friends certainly didn't, and I myself wouldn't (and probably couldn't). In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone at the party could keep a straight face while yelling at a piece of metal. That sort of thing tends to make one self conscious ;)
On the other hand, what's a little potential humiliation when all of your friends are there with you, and with the possibility that there really might be something to it? On the strength of my friends' and previous testimonies, I'd be willing to try at least that much. |
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| Boomer187 |
yeah I read that article about the bending the of the head of the spoon. Quite impressive, especially the bend line. I used to design dies for metal stamps and some would bend the metal, its tough to get it right.
I would want to do this spoon bending at like a psychology party, we have plenty of them, and I think we may have the 25+ people in attendance. However, I konw for a fact I woudl be laughing when we shout out bend. We might try to perform this without yelling it.....if it works it might throw a kink in the plan.
who knows. but there will definitely be video and pictures if this ever goes down. |
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| Flyboy217 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Boomer187
yeah I read that article about the bending the of the head of the spoon. Quite impressive, especially the bend line. I used to design dies for metal stamps and some would bend the metal, its tough to get it right.
I would want to do this spoon bending at like a psychology party, we have plenty of them, and I think we may have the 25+ people in attendance. However, I konw for a fact I woudl be laughing when we shout out bend. We might try to perform this without yelling it.....if it works it might throw a kink in the plan.
who knows. but there will definitely be video and pictures if this ever goes down. |
Neat. It's fine to laugh. Indeed, it would be very hard not to. Just as long as people are willing to really give it a shot. You know, set aside all cynicism for a few minutes blah blah. The psychology party at U-Arizona might be good guidance for that sort of thing. If you do host it, try to sound like an expert... it helps the attendees feel less self conscious. Let me know how it goes. |
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| DJ Rat 187 |
| man, you people are amusing, you think you found something amazing, yet you don't even have a particle of the big picture, man do I feel superb (sorry) |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Rat 187
man, you people are amusing, you think you found something amazing, yet you don't even have a particle of the big picture, man do I feel superb (sorry) |
Not really amazing, just peculiar and interesting. Are you saying you know something we don't? WHy don't you share?:) |
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| Flyboy217 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Rat 187
man, you people are amusing, you think you found something amazing, yet you don't even have a particle of the big picture, man do I feel superb (sorry) |
Yes, please do explain :) |
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| whitesmoke |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
Actually, I heard quite the opposite...I thought that we humans only use a certain percentage of our brains. Maybe we haven’t fully evolved yet, and just haven’t learned how to put that part to use:) Maybe that part is the part that will eventually allow us to make things move with our minds.
Imagine sitting on the couch, and not wanting to get up to get the remote control on the table, so you just focus on it, and make it fly to your hand. That would be cool. |
Brain imaging research techniques such as PET scans (positron emission tomography) and fMRI (functional magnetic resonance imaging) clearly show that the vast majority of the brain does not lie fallow. Indeed, although certain minor functions may use only a small part of the brain at one time, any sufficiently complex set of activities or thought patterns will indeed use many parts of the brain. Just as people don't use all of their muscle groups at one time, they also don't use all of their brain at once. For any given activity, such as eating, watching television, making love, or reading, you may use a few specific parts of your brain. Over the course of a whole day, however, just about all of the brain is used at one time or another.
On a side note, I am actually reading Travels right now and it is pretty good. |
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| Flyboy217 |
| quote: | Originally posted by whitesmoke
Brain imaging research techniques such as PET scans (positron emission tomography) and fMRI (functional magnetic resonance imaging) clearly show that the vast majority of the brain does not lie fallow. Indeed, although certain minor functions may use only a small part of the brain at one time, any sufficiently complex set of activities or thought patterns will indeed use many parts of the brain. Just as people don't use all of their muscle groups at one time, they also don't use all of their brain at once. For any given activity, such as eating, watching television, making love, or reading, you may use a few specific parts of your brain. Over the course of a whole day, however, just about all of the brain is used at one time or another. |
There are a few commonly cited origins of the "we only use 10%" claim. I suspect at least some of them are apocryphal. My favorite, however, is the following: back in the day, researchers tried to physically probe the brain to see what response each part elicited in the subject. The parts that caused the subject to make noise, to flinch a body party, or report feeling were marked as alive, and the rest was considered useless. ;)
In any case, the survival of this silly claim shocks me.
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On a side note, I am actually reading Travels right now and it is pretty good. |
Indeed it is. I just read it two days ago. Have you reached the spoonbending party chapter? Do share your thoughts when you do. |
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| whitesmoke |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flyboy217
There are a few commonly cited origins of the "we only use 10%" claim. I suspect at least some of them are apocryphal. My favorite, however, is the following: back in the day, researchers tried to physically probe the brain to see what response each part elicited in the subject. The parts that caused the subject to make noise, to flinch a body party, or report feeling were marked as alive, and the rest was considered useless. ;)
In any case, the survival of this silly claim shocks me.
Indeed it is. I just read it two days ago. Have you reached the spoonbending party chapter? Do share your thoughts when you do. |
It has been done done by many different scientists but the one who's results are still used today is Broca. I just took neuroanatomy so I had to learn all of em. Yipee.
I have not yet reached the spoon bending party. Just fininshed reading about his climb of Kilimanjaro.
I really enjoyed the first 100 pages. I am in medical school right now and it was very interesting to hear his take on medical education and why he decided not to practice medicine. |
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| Flyboy217 |
| quote: | Originally posted by whitesmoke
I really enjoyed the first 100 pages. I am in medical school right now and it was very interesting to hear his take on medical education and why he decided not to practice medicine. |
What did you think of his reasons? Several of them were similar to my reasons for not wanting to go to medical school. It's too... institutional, dogmatic.
Have you gotten to any of his sections on "paranormal" things? He seems to keep an open and rational mind for most of it. |
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| DJ Rat 187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
Not really amazing, just peculiar and interesting. Are you saying you know something we don't? WHy don't you share?:) |
yes I do, but I'm sorry, I can't share, the key to freedom doesn't come for free, plus if I told you, you would think that I am insane and if you did understand it would probably collapse your thought process/reality. |
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