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Fraud From A Seller On Forum - Please Read! (pg. 9)
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| Spective |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tegu
i will be more tha happy to provide you with everything i have once you refund my money. please spective, if you want to get on with your life like we do ours, refund my money, then i can provide you with whatever you need to get your money back from stacey. |
Well I find it really encouraging that you now acknolwedge that Stacey and I are two different people.
Believe me, I am working hard to try figuring out a way to get you your money in full. I havent slept yet. |
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| Tegu |
I acknowledge nothing. You do not have my trust.
If you would like to regain it you will send me my money back. Then I might believe you and will provide you with absolutely everything i possibly can to correct your unfortunate situation. |
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| KiNeTiC ENeRgY |
| This Spective dude seems awfully calm about all this...Spective, why don't you turn this so called Stacey-L into the authorities?? Wouldn't that make sense? Or post her contact info so we all can have a word with her. You'll probably say you have no idea where she is right? I think your a scammer plain and simple. An honest man would not be so lack as you clearly seem to be here...your stories don't add up dude to all the people you scammed. I think if your so innocent, post your ex-fiance's info so we can verify and clear yourself of this mess. I know if you were almost married to this person, you can find her and turn her in. If you don't, that just proves that there is no Stacey-L and that it was you all along who is trying to scam the fellow TA's and others elsewhere. heres your chance to clear yourself..take it or leave it. |
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| Spective |
Whats this "so we can have aa word with her" business. Dont get yourself involved beyond being one of the many spectators eating popcorn while reading this saga. This is between me and the 6 victims of her fraud.
Why dont I turn her into the authorities? Because I know how the justice system works. In order for them to have a warrant to enter her apartment, I have to have evidence. I dont have any until some of the victims receive their reimbursements and can help me out.
Your logic as to why you think I am lying is so ridiculous? Because I am being calm and professional instead of blithering curisng idiot, I am lying?
Maybe if you saw me in person, you'd see how stressed I am right now. The nerve of you to judge my emotions from just text. Emotions are just through body language.
Maybe if you go back and read the posts Ive made, and that others have made about me, including a testimonial from a TA mod himself, you can see the truth. If not, I really dont care. I only care to help the 6 victims. |
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| Spective |
^ Cheers mate.
Normally, I would have just resolved this outside of the board. However, they chose o bring the board into it, so now I am obligated to fight for the truth.
I dont mind people who are not the victims, posting, its just that you guys cant really editorialize because you arent involved. Posts that encourage resolve and give advice to either myself or the victims is fine. But judgmeents of innocence or guilt are for the judicial systtem to make .
I know Im innocent, and I am doing everything possible to prove it |
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| KiNeTiC ENeRgY |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
Whats this "so we can have aa word with her" business. Dont get yourself involved beyond being one of the many spectators eating popcorn while reading this saga. This is between me and the 6 victims of her fraud.
Why dont I turn her into the authorities? Because I know how the justice system works. In order for them to have a warrant to enter her apartment, I have to have evidence. I dont have any until some of the victims receive their reimbursements and can help me out.
Your logic as to why you think I am lying is so ridiculous? Because I am being calm and professional instead of blithering curisng idiot, I am lying?
Maybe if you saw me in person, you'd see how stressed I am right now. The nerve of you to judge my emotions from just text. Emotions are just through body language.
Maybe if you go back and read the posts Ive made, and that others have made about me, including a testimonial from a TA mod himself, you can see the truth. If not, I really dont care. I only care to help the 6 victims. |
hehe, I'll eat popcorn and post all day long on this forum thank you. As far as "I know how the judicial system works" BS your saying just makes you look even more guilty. I've been on many other different types of forums where people are getting screwed by other members exactly like this and you act just like the scammers do there. Until this so called stacey-L whore is found or discovered to be a real live person who is guilty, I'll make my comments on this matter. By the way Our legal system takes fraud cases very seriously my friend...if you report it, it will be dealt with. Now, the microwave just beeped so my new bag is ready to eat, I'll go get it now and sit back and chill. |
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| Michael |
Why would Stacey use her real name to commit fraud? Wouldn't you use someone elses?
As someone else said in an earlier post, why would Stacey sell stuff on sites she knew you visited? Whilst using her own name???
Spective I want to believe you but I don't.
I know this means nothing, but Stacey's posts seem similar to yours in terms of language used and structure.
And did Stacey know alot about music/mixers? Having read all the posts and links including the ebay description, Stacey sure knows alot about mixers, even putting stuff in like "only used in a studio environment". I know my girlfriend doesn't know about this sort of thing...
I hope Im wrong, but it seems like you are refunding people in order to stop them taking further action...
Like I said earlier it's best if everyone contacts the police, one person with one small claim may not interest the police much, but 6 people with claims against the same person, I think the police would definitely be interested... |
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| Spective |
| quote: | Originally posted by Michael
Why would Stacey use her real name to commit fraud? Wouldn't you use someone elses?
As someone else said in an earlier post, why would Stacey sell stuff on sites she knew you visited? Whilst using her own name???
Spective I want to believe you but I don't.
I know this means nothing, but Stacey's posts seem similar to yours in terms of language used and structure.
And did Stacey know alot about music/mixers? Having read all the posts and links including the ebay description, Stacey sure knows alot about mixers, even putting stuff in like "only used in a studio environment". I know my girlfriend doesn't know about this sort of thing...
I hope Im wrong, but it seems like you are refunding people in order to stop them taking further action...
Like I said earlier it's best if everyone contacts the police, one person with one small claim may not interest the police much, but 6 people with claims against the same person, I think the police would definitely be interested... |
Did she actually use her real name? Does it say Stacey-L on her drivers license? I dont think so. Stacey is such a common name.
She might as well have said her name was Bob.
Also, are you implying that because shes a girl, she wouldnt know about studio equipment? She has her own decks! She has own records! She knows so much about the music....why do you think I was so drawn to her? I know im not the only one who has fantasies of meeting this incredibly beautiful girl who is smart and enjoyed electronic music. That was Stacey to me. However, she turned otu to be a liar. Thats why I ended our engagement.
As for language, structure, I dont really know how to answer that. All I can say is that everyone doesnt have their OWN distinct language structure. I know that in my circle of friends, we have a similar vocabulary and grammatical structure. Maybe thats why we are friends? Because we are similar people. |
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| Spective |
| quote: | Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
You've studied law, so that must make you an authority. I've studied medicine...does that mean I know how to heal people? Hell no it doesn't. Just because I met a person once doesn't mean anything dude. Girls thought Ted Bundy was a nice guy and went home with him, and he killed and mutillated their dead bodies for days.:rolleyes: |
Thats like saying "I've studied C++, does that mean I know computer code?"
Of course if you studied medicine, you know techniques on how to help people eal. Now, if you meant that you studied SOME medicine, then I get what you saying.
Although for me, I actually studied business law. |
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| torontotrance |
| but if you refund people, you still are on the hook for the scam. Ask yourself, would he go to the lengths of making all these posts, talking with his bank, talking with all the people, I doubt it. To the other guy talking about ted bundy, he was a psychopath, that totally throws human nature out the window and they are less than .02% of the total population, so I assume they don't count. Who says Stacey was not put up to this by someone else, who says her current man was not the guy telling her about turntables. As I said earlier, if Spective solves the issue and pays you back, do you really care, sure you are angry that you were taken advantage of but you did not lose one cent in the grand scheme of things because you got your money back. Spective is the one that has the problem, his ebay account, which last I knew had like 200 sales with a 97% happiness rating, he is paying the money out of his own pocket, even thought he did not do anything. I mean kudos to him for at least being honest enough to do something about it, saying it was'nt me, yes people will say he was the one but why go to all this trouble, if I did a scam, I sure as hell would not refund money or even post, I'd go hide. |
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| Michael |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
Did she actually use her real name? Does it say Stacey-L on her drivers license? I dont think so. Stacey is such a common name.
She might as well have said her name was Bob.
Also, are you implying that because shes a girl, she wouldnt know about studio equipment? She has her own decks! She has own records! She knows so much about the music....why do you think I was so drawn to her? I know im not the only one who has fantasies of meeting this incredibly beautiful girl who is smart and enjoyed electronic music. That was Stacey to me. However, she turned otu to be a liar. Thats why I ended our engagement.
As for language, structure, I dont really know how to answer that. All I can say is that everyone doesnt have their OWN distinct language structure. I know that in my circle of friends, we have a similar vocabulary and grammatical structure. Maybe thats why we are friends? Because we are similar people. |
I was saying if i was going to do a scam, i would use a totally different name, not use my real first name no matter how common it is. And i definitely wouldn't try and sell someone elses stuff on a website i knew they visited with my real name!
And of course i'm not saying that because she's a girl she wouldn't know about studio equipment. My girlfriend has decks too, but if i asked her to rattle off the specs of her mixer she wouldn't have a clue...
Like I said in an earlier post, I want to believe you. There's nothing I hate more than some twat ripping off someone elses hard earned money. |
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