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Is Gandhi in Hell... (pg. 4)
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by S-a-M-u-E-l
what!? this is rediculous. Basically, you said that christian beliefs previal over all others. |
No, that's not what he's saying. THat's what christian doctrine says. |
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| PinkChicken |
yeah. i've been reading some about Buddhism and so far(what i understand from it) is that Buddhist dont see the buddha as a god but as a teacher and they follow the four noble truths and the eightfold path. But what i'm wondering (for those who are buddhist or know a lot about buddhism) is do they believe in any god? or do they not believe in a higher power at all?
if i got any of this wrong will you please correct me(which im sure i'm way off)
and if anyone knows any good sites about buddhism will you give me a link? i'm really intrested in it |
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| Mattsanity |
| I can care less about Mahatma Gandhi and other religions. All I care about is Christianity. |
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| TuanAnh213 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mattsanity
I can care less about Mahatma Gandhi and other religions. All I care about is Christianity. |
i was only counting down the last trickling seconds before your lame ass was going to post in here |
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| tribu |
| Anyone who has watched South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut knows that Ghandi is clearly in hell. |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by max_payne
According to Christian doctrine, passage to heaven is secured as long as you accept Jesus. So is Gandhi in hell for failing to accept Jesus? I was wondering how you would respond to this dilemma?
According to Christian doctrine since Gandhi never did accept Jesus Christ as his own personal savior he would go to hell.
What about righteous and moral hindus, buddhists, muslims, jews, etc? |
From my own Roman Catholic POV: The solution lies in the Holy Trinity mate.
Jesus = God = The Holy Spirit
Accepting one is accepting the others (regardless of the name/label of your God, Holy Spirit, Jesus, etc).
Believe in (your) God - passage is secured.
I thought Pope JP2 already made a proclaimation as such...
the exception to this is if your god is satan/evil, which all Good Books clearly define. |
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| Mattsanity |
| quote: | Originally posted by TuanAnh213
i was only counting down the last trickling seconds before your lame ass was going to post in here |
Dude, lay the phuck off of me. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by S-a-M-u-E-l
what!? this is rediculous. Basically, you said that christian beliefs previal over all others. |
Not at all. I'm saying every religion attempts to provide a belief system that applies to all. According to Islam Allah is the one true god for all, no matter whether you're muslim or hindu, Allah is the only God and all other beliefs are wrong. If you sin you will go to a Muslim definition of hell, and if you are virtuous you will go to a Muslim paradise. Similarly Jews believe that their beliefs are correct and others are false. And in the same vein according to Catholic doctrine (not according to me) you will go to hell if you do not accept Christ as your personal saviour... this applies to all non-Christians. This isn't unique... religions try to make sense of the universe, they attempt to posit objective universal truths - that is they don't usually say "this is true for us but not necessarily for others", they simply state "this is THE truth". |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
The solution lies in the Holy Trinity mate.
Jesus = God = The Holy Spirit
Accepting one is accepting the others (regardless of the name/label of your God, Holy Spirit, Jesus, etc).
Believe in (your) God - passage is secured.
I thought Pope JP2 already made a proclaimation as such...
the exception to this is if your god is satan/evil, which all Good Books clearly define. |
Well that still doesn't answer the question of Ghandi being in hell or heaven (according to christianity). According to Jainism (ghandi's religion) when a living being destroys all his karmas, he possesses perfect knowledge, vision, power, and bliss. He becomes omniscient and omnipotent. This living being is a God of Jain religion.
Therefore, Ghandi believes in multiple Gods and as a result he breaks the first commandment/this belief in the holy trinity. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by PinkChicken
yeah. i've been reading some about Buddhism and so far(what i understand from it) is that Buddhist dont see the buddha as a god but as a teacher and they follow the four noble truths and the eightfold path. But what i'm wondering (for those who are buddhist or know a lot about buddhism) is do they believe in any god? or do they not believe in a higher power at all?
if i got any of this wrong will you please correct me(which im sure i'm way off)
and if anyone knows any good sites about buddhism will you give me a link? i'm really intrested in it |
Generally speaking I think a belief in God is inconsequential to Buddhism, which may equally be called an offshoot of Hinduism or a philosophy as it can be called a religion in it's own right. From wht I've been told, according to Buddhism,if Gods exist, then they too are not separate from the cycle of death and rebirth. Also keep in mind that there are many sects of Buddhism and some elevate the Buddhas to almost devine status. |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Ghandi believes in multiple Gods and as a result he breaks ... this belief in the holy trinity. |
God exists in the singular, in the plural. God exists, you see?
If Ghandi believes in the God(s) of Jainism, the passage into being with such (or the passage into being a part of such) -- then yes, Ghandi is in "heaven", Ghandi is with/a part of God (assuming he has followed the tenets of the requirements of such passage).
I'm no doctor of divinity, however again I think the solution lies in that we were all created by and with the same hand, and if we live a good and just life, to the same hand we will one day return. |
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| vishous5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
From my own Roman Catholic POV: The solution lies in the Holy Trinity mate.
Jesus = God = The Holy Spirit
Accepting one is accepting the others (regardless of the name/label of your God, Holy Spirit, Jesus, etc).
Believe in (your) God - passage is secured.
I thought Pope JP2 already made a proclaimation as such...
the exception to this is if your god is satan/evil, which all Good Books clearly define. |
i can only pray to God (the same one all of us believe in) that all Christians believed that. |
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