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APOLOGY TO THE ENTIRE TRANCEADDICT BOARD REGARDING FRAUD - READ INSIDE FOR THE TRUTH (pg. 3)
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| True, I dont like the fact he has been around TA for 3 years and does something like that, he even had ppl backing him up that he "didnt" do it. |
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| DJAntSmith |
Although I'm glad that this is finally coming out, I feel that the worst part for me (and probably some others as well) being a TA member who actively buys on here and ebay, is that we were right about the whole thing.
We thought it was a scam and it was.
My trust and faith in TA's members and buying section has dropped.
I have read this throughout and my opinion is that the whole truth still isn't there. Before it was actively and somewhat convincingly trying to prove his honesty, innocence and integruity. And now he is actively and again somewhat convincingly trying to prove his poor health in the same way. I'm not saying he is or isn't lying as I am just speculating but just as before (and I was right before) something still doesn't seem right. |
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| Spective |
Can you elaborate a bit more on what isnt right? Its been proven now that I am not lying about my illness. I even posted a picture of my medication that says PROZAC on it, which is an anti depressent.
Again, I am not trying to say that my depression is what causes me to do this. I am saying that it is something I have, and that I subconsciously engage myself in risky activites in order to get adrenaline rushes. My type of depression is very numbing to my body, so I do anything I can to feel emotion..
Does this make more sense?
I dont see as to why I would lie at this point? I have confessed to the scam. People are already receiving their refunds. What could I possible have left to lie about?
My reputation is already ruined. I am already at rock bottom. |
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| Spective |
Also, I would hate for the For Sale forum to fall apart because of this.
You guys need to understand that the For Sale forum has been on TA much longer than I have. There have been hundreds of successful transactions.
Tegu and DJThanh expressed the same concern over internet transactions to me on AIM after i confessed.
This is what I told them. The moral of the story is, if something is too good to be true, it is.
I mean, the deal I gave Tegu was a $1600 mixer for, $900 (Brand NEW). The deal I gave DJ Thanh was a $350 pioneer efx-500 for $200 (Brand New). Ask yourself next time, why would someone sell a brand new item that cheap?
Also, try making an effort to get in contact with the person on the phone before you send the money. This way you get a sense of what the person is like by hearing their voice. Often, a scammer will not want to talk on the phone for fear of being traced later on. If someone refuses to talk to you over the phone, its an immediate red flag.
As for PayPal, do not be fooled by this service. They offer a false sense of security to their members with their "$5,000 buyer protection policy." Many people have been screwed by Paypal, the company itself. Please visit www.paypalsucks.com where a friend of mine recorded a conversation he had with PayPal operators regarding money they literally stole out of his bank account without his consent. You will also be able to read testimony from a former paypal employee regarding internal practices.
Although it can be expensive, for large items like mixers, I would use an escrow service like escrow.com
Cash on Delivery is another option as well.
NEVER EVER send money orders or personal checks as they are untraceable. I was telling DJ Thanh and Tegu today on AIM, that even after I was caught with IP match, I could have EASILY just disappeared from the site and taken off with he money. Even with Tegu, I could have ran away with his money even though he used PayPal. They are lucky that I was a scammer that eventually wanted to do the right thing. |
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| Spective |
| quote: | Originally posted by djtrinity
you people may think i am mad for say'n this....this may even be what he wants......but he is making attempts to pay money back....its prolle all bull anyway but how would u feel if this kid put a bullet in his head???????? would u be able to live with that??
ofcourse maybe he just try'n to get sympathy and this is more lies...but if i were any of u guys @ this point i would just let him try to pay me back and accept that he would prolle never would pay me back......
he at least admited it was him.....and we all know very well we can be scammed on this internet ..... that ancient phrase 'let the buyer beware'.......
is this kids life gett'n wrecked worth a couple grand.....think about this guys........ |
Thank you mate, I appreciate the concern. I will not be putting a bullet in my head. I have been up all night thinking more rationally. I think that once everyone is paid, maybe Jthorn can remove all of the stuff he posted about me in his blog, and these threads can be erased, so that I can have closure and this wont haunt me for the rest of my life, when potential employers do background checks on me via google (fairly common practice these days) |
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| Michael |
Regardless if the mental illness spiel is true or not, the police still need to be notified. As i said in my earlier post, the bull alarm is going off in my head again and it seems like another lie so Tegu and the others don't get the police involved. And Spective, you can say whatever you want about the police not being interested, but I guarantee when 6 people come forward they'll be interested no matter how big or small the amounts of money involved are.
As you yourself said, you wouldn't have owned up to any of this if it hadn't come to light that you and "Stacey" had matching IP addresses.
And if you are truly sorry about ripping those people off, maybe you should sell the digital camera you used to take photos of your arm, and the computer your using to log onto TA, and use the money to pay these people back. These people should not have to wait to be reimbursed, or to be asked to sell something on ebay and then you make up the difference.
If that fails mate, take a trip to see your bank manager and tell him your a lowlife scamming prick who needs a loan so he can pay back the people he ripped off.
These may seem life harsh words, but you deserve every bit of it. |
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| Spective |
| quote: | | he bull alarm is going off in my head again and it seems like another lie so Tegu and the others don't get the police involved. |
So my mental illness is a ploy to stall Tegu? Makes no sense. Did I not post above that I got a loan from a friend and will paying Tegu back by next week? Did I not say that 4/5 people will have been paid by the end of next week? Has 1 person not already posted that he received my payment?
And how do you propose I sell those items mate? On TA where noone trusts me? On eBay where Ive been banned from? How do you reckon people should pay me? Via money order/personal check which I explicitly said in my post about how people can avoid getting scammed? Via PayPal where I have been banned? Let me know mate.
| quote: | | Regardless if the mental illness spiel is true or not |
If a picture that shows scars from cutting my arms with a knife and a picture of my medication not damning proof of my illness, what the is? Do I need to go on a shootin spree somewhere in order to get you all to believe me when I say Ive been diagnosed with depression? |
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| LouieH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
Thank you mate, I appreciate the concern. I will not be putting a bullet in my head. I have been up all night thinking more rationally. I think that once everyone is paid, maybe Jthorn can remove all of the stuff he posted about me in his blog, and these threads can be erased, so that I can have closure and this wont haunt me for the rest of my life, when potential employers do background checks on me via google (fairly common practice these days) |
While I can empathize with you, your depression doesn't make you unique or special. Every criminal has some real reason for what they do... that doesn't make it "OK". Our prisons are filled with people who had horrible childhoods or suffered from a range of mental illnesses. Society dictates a line between who made a rational decision to do something, and who is truly at the mercy of their own demons. It's obvious what side of that line you were on.
At some point you have to realize that, to other people, you are what you do.
If I were a potential employer of yours, I'd certainly want to know about this. Nothing like this will mean much if you do the right thing from here on out and stop making more excuses. Your words don't carry much weight right now and there's a price to be paid for what you've done. Stop trying to avoid it and take it like a man. Your future depends on it.
[Edit... I tend to comma-splice a lot!] |
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| Spective |
| quote: | Originally posted by LouieH
While I can empathize with you, your depression doesn't make you unique or special. Every criminal has some real reason for what they do... that doesn't make it "OK". Our prisons are filled with people who had horrible childhoods or suffered from a range of mental illnesses. Society dictates a line between who made a rational decision to do something, and who is truly at the mercy of their own demons. It's obvious what side of that line you were on.
At some point you have to realize that, to other people, you are what you do.
If I were a potential employer of yours, I'd certainly want to know about this. Nothing like this will mean much if you do the right thing from here on out and stop making more excuses. Your words don't carry much weight right now, and there's a price to be paid for what you've done. Stop trying to avoid it, and take it like a man. Your future depends on it. |
I feel as if my microphone isnt on or something. Did I ever say that I blame this whole thing on my depression? Did I not say that I understand that what I did was wrong?
These are not excuses. I am not trying to justify what I did. All I did was make a post, explaining my background, and give the truth on what happened.
Can you tell me how I am trying to avoid it if I came clean about EVERYTHING I did and if I already started paying people?
You make it sound like I spent my whole life cheating people out of their money. I made a mistake. A huge mistake I understand, but it was a mistake. I regret doing it. I learned from it. I am pro-actively taking steps to rectify it.
What I dont understand is, why would you continue to beat someone down with a stick who is trying to make things right? Its like encouraging me to just run in the other direction, when the direction I am taking right now is the right one? |
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| LouieH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
I feel as if my microphone isnt on or something. Did I ever say that I blame this whole thing on my depression? Did I not say that I understand that what I did was wrong?
These are not excuses. I am not trying to justify what I did. All I did was make a post, explaining my background, and give the truth on what happened.
Can you tell me how I am trying to avoid it if I came clean about EVERYTHING I did and if I already started paying people?
You make it sound like I spent my whole life cheating people out of their money. I made a mistake. A huge mistake I understand, but it was a mistake. I regret doing it. I learned from it. I am pro-actively taking steps to rectify it.
What I dont understand is, why would you continue to beat someone down with a stick who is trying to make things right? Its like encouraging me to just run in the other direction, when the direction I am taking right now is the right one? |
I'm not trying to beat you down. I'm trying to help.
If you truly wanted to come clean, your depression wouldn't have even factored into this. You'd simply have owned up to your actions, tried to make restitution if you can, and accepted whatever consequences were coming - no matter what they are. It's another excuse in a long line of them. The only difference this time is that the excuse doesn't have fictional grounds.
Even before you were caught you were trying this whole time to get this thing erased... gone! It's not that easy! You say you've reached bottom yet it appears to me as if you're still struggling to float away from this mess with your reputation (outside of the people that know about this) intact.
To me, it seems like you're finally seeing that your actions have the potential to cause real consequences for you now and you're still trying to run away from them. I'm calling you out on it because I think taking responsibility for what you've done and not trying to fight the consequences will do you some good. |
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| Spective |
The depression issue is linked to one thing, emotion. I was trying to offer an explanation as to why people like myself hurt themselves, put themselves in danger, and/or steal - to feel endorphine/adrenaline highs.
I am not saying that everyone should dismiss this because I have a mental disorder.
Let me put it this way. When a crime happens, the first thing the police ask is "What could be his/her motivation to do this?" This helps them understand what they are dealing with in the grand scheme of things.
And as I have said countless times, I am not afraid of legal consequences in this. I have studied law for 3 years now, and I know that in a non violent cold case like this, where the suspect admits guilt, and offers restitution, the police need not interfere because there are unfortunately scammers out there, who run away with the money and disappear.
You maybe right about me wanting to protect my reputation. But isnt that what any person who commits a crime would want to do? To fix his/her mistake, learn from it, and become a better person in the future?
I look at it this way. Our past is inscribed in stone, not written in chalk. Yet, when a mistake is made, its like people think anything good Ive done in the past is written in chalk and has to be erased, while the mistakes I made are inscribed in stone forever. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
The depression issue is linked to one thing, emotion. I was trying to offer an explanation as to why people like myself hurt themselves, put themselves in danger, and/or steal - to feel endorphine/adrenaline highs.
I am not saying that everyone should dismiss this because I have a mental disorder.
Let me put it this way. When a crime happens, the first thing the police ask is "What could be his/her motivation to do this?" This helps them understand what they are dealing with in the grand scheme of things.
And as I have said countless times, I am not afraid of legal consequences in this. I have studied law for 3 years now, and I know that in a non violent cold case like this, where the suspect admits guilt, and offers restitution, the police need not interfere because there are unfortunately scammers out there, who run away with the money and disappear.
You maybe right about me wanting to protect my reputation. But isnt that what any person who commits a crime would want to do? To fix his/her mistake, learn from it, and become a better person in the future?
I look at it this way. Our past is inscribed in stone, not written in chalk. Yet, when a mistake is made, its like people think anything good Ive done in the past is written and chalk and has to be erased, while the mistakes I made are inscribed in stone forever. |
crime?
you actually committed 7 crimes, 6 rip offs and 1 crime, the mistrust of those people. |
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