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APOLOGY TO THE ENTIRE TRANCEADDICT BOARD REGARDING FRAUD - READ INSIDE FOR THE TRUTH (pg. 4)
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| Spective |
Simcut, where did I say I committed 1 crime?
I was not speaking in personal reference both times I used the word crime.
I said When a crime happens, the first thin gthe police ask is ...........
Why would I put crime in plural there? Its not like the police only ask about motivation when multiple crimes are committed.
I said But isnt that what any person who commits a crime would want to do?......
Again, why would I make crime plural there? Any person, whether it be me or someone else, who commits any sort of crime would want to fix the mistake, learn from it, and become a better person
Does this clear it up? Maybe you should be responding to the more important things in my post. Picking at little things like that show me that you cant find anything worthwhile to try attacking me with |
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| LouieH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
You maybe right about me wanting to protect my reputation. But isnt that what any person who commits a crime would want to do? To fix his/her mistake, learn from it, and become a better person in the future? |
I'll answer to this part, because I've said everything I'm going to say about your depression. You can take that or leave it.
Part of becoming a better person is not trying to erase or "fix" what you've done. It's paying the price and accepting it. Reputation is something you build over time. You've just destroyed yours, and it's going to take time to rebuild it. Expecting anything different is fooling yourself.
If this one period of time in your life haunts you for a while, that's all the more reason not to do the same thing again. What you do from here on out will either build your reputation back or drive it down further into the mud. For the near future people will be wary of dealing with you. I think they have every right to be. Denying them the chance of finding out what you have done is doing them wrong. It also isn't doing you much good either - as it gives you more of an impetus to try the same thing if you find yourself in desperate circumstances in the future, only "smarter" next time. |
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| Spective |
| quote: | Originally posted by LouieH
I'll answer to this part, because I've said everything I'm going to say about your depression. You can take that or leave it.
Part of becoming a better person is not trying to erase or "fix" what you've done. It's paying the price and accepting it. Reputation is something you build over time. You've just destroyed yours, and it's going to take time to rebuild it. Expecting anything different is fooling yourself.
If this one period of time in your life haunts you for a while, that's all the more reason not to do the same thing again. What you do from here on out will either build your reputation back or drive it down further into the mud. For the near future people will be wary of dealing with you. I think they have every right to be. Denying them the chance of finding out what you have done is doing them wrong. It also isn't doing you much good either - as it gives you more of an impetus to try the same thing if you find yourself in desperate circumstances in the future, only "smarter" next time. |
OK we both said our pieces on the depression.
Other than that, I fully agree with your post. Believe me, my direction from here on out is to continue to slowly build trust with you all over time. Locally, I will continue DJing for various charities. On August 11, I will be opening for Jondi and Spesh and have asked that the DJ fees they offered me to be donated to their homeless shelter cause (i requested my fees be donated, way before this scam stuff happened.)
I have definitely learned my lesson. You know, this is one of the situations people can use to say "money doesnt buy happiness." I tried to obtain money to buy things that make me truly happy, but in the long run, it has made me unhappy. |
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| jthorn |
| quote: | | Stop making it sound like I refuse to give you your money back. Money doesnt just come from out of thin air. |
Good that you acknowledge this - the money you acquired indeed did not come from thin air, it came from my account.
I gave you ample chances to refund my money and walk away with the laptop. You have lied to me consistantly for the past 2 months, and have tried repeatedly to deceive the members of this community.
Now that you have finally revealed the truth, you act as if all should be forgiven. You seem confident that you can beat the system, and that your offers here are solely to our benefit and not to your own. You act as if it is you who are making a sacrifice, and not the people from whom you have stolen.
You have proven yourself untrustworthy in the past, and while it may be true that you have now had a change of heart, as you must surely understand I cannot take what you say at face value.
In the resolution of the situation, there can be no shades of grey - either I have my money fully and promptly returned, or I continue to try to have it returned. I have already been fighting this situation for months, and it should be obvious why I cannot accept any offers of an installment plan from you at this point.
It isn't that I don't understand - I'm sure you've spent most or all of my money - it's that I don't care. The only thing that matters to me now is getting all of my money back swiftly. If you really care about making that happen, I'm sure you can find a way to do so. |
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| Spective |
| quote: | | Now that you have finally revealed the truth, you act as if all should be forgiven.Now that you have finally revealed the truth, you act as if all should be forgiven. |
Stop making assumptions. I have said countless times that I am not looking for sympathy or forgiveness. I am not trying to beat the system. How is admitting guilt to crimeS (said that one for simcut) and offering restitution to the victims beating the system? If you are referring to my comments about not being scared about the agencies you have contacted, I would rephrase it like this. I am confident that the system will not work in the way you think it will.
I figured that many people would jump to the opportunity to learn what motivates someone to commit a crime, on a much deeper level. Apparently, I was wrong. Most of you just seem to want to continue putting your own spin on what I say and make judgements.
I have also said continually that I am going to work extra hours and do anything I can to reimburse you. Just because you want it now doesnt mean the money will magically appear in my bank account for me to send to you. I even told you to continue your persuits via law enforcement and fraud prevention agencies.
I think at this point, the best thing you can do is persue your CC company to go after PayPal and be aggressive with them. This way, PayPal will give you your money right away, and then I will be left to deal with them on their legal terms.
Does this clear things up a bit more for everyone? |
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| DJAntSmith |
Out of curiosity...
What did you spend the money on? A few of these have only happened recently so that's why you could refund some of them.
Please don't tell me it was a loan payback or you were behind on other payments because i'm sure you would of put that in your excuse/apology.
So what did you buy? New records? New turntables? New mixer? |
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| Spective |
Its a good question, but I wont answer it - only because its just going to give another reason for everyone to attack, when I am trying to bring closure to this, so the For SAle forum can return to just sales, not drama. Also, judging on my attempts to bring the truth forward thus far, all people are going to say is "Yeah right" and then fabricate an idea of what I used the money on.
All I can say, is that I didnt spend it on my studio. My studio was all purchased before I made this mistake. I need to make it a point that my decision came during a point of desperation. I didnt wake up one morning and think "Hey, lets screw people over today after I have my morning tea and toast!" |
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| DJAntSmith |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
Its a good question, but I wont answer it - only because its just going to give another reason for everyone to attack, when I am trying to bring closure to this, so the For SAle forum can return to just sales, not drama.
All I can say, is that I didnt spend it on my studio. My studio was all purchased before I made this mistake. I need to make it a point that my decision came during a point of desperation. I didnt wake up one morning and think "Hey, lets screw people over today after I have my morning tea and toast!" |
I don't see why you won't answer it. You already said you're at the lowest you can go. Did you buy records? Was it money to set another scam up? |
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| Spective |
| quote: | people are going to say is "Yeah right" and then fabricate an idea of what I used the money on.
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You just proved my point. Instead of just asking the question, you decided to make guesses. Speculation isnt going to help bring this whole thing to end.
I will say one of the items I used the money on, which was 2 months worth of rent I owed. |
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| LouieH |
The motivation for all crime that is committed by sane people is simple: They want something so bad that they're willing to risk the only truly valuable things that they own - Their name, their freedom, and their future.
It doesn't matter much what it is they want or why. It matters more what they're willing to pay to get it.
Usually it isn't worth the price. |
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| Spective |
I think that your post is good beacuse it explains the surface reason. My surface reason for doing this was to get money to pay for somethings, including my rent. However, numerous psychologists understand there is a deeper subconcious force at work. AS I explained, I havent been able to feel my body for 6 years. So in turn, I subconsciously do things that bring emotions of unpredictability and excitement to my life. Now I am not saying this was an exciting experience in a positive way. I am just saying that the uncertainty of the situation brought a lot of adrenaline that stemmed from fear.
Good post mate. |
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| DJAntSmith |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
You just proved my point. Instead of just asking the question, you decided to make guesses. Speculation isnt going to help bring this whole thing to end.
I will say one of the items I used the money on, which was 2 months worth of rent I owed. |
I did ask the question and you didn't answer. What else have i to go on? Making guesses makes it easier to answer the question. Just as if everyone hadn't of thought you scammed them you probably wouldn't of come clean. People's suggestions and guesses does genuinely make it easier. Think about it.
Also coming clean will help get it off your chest. It's obviously something sensitive otherwise you would not post saying you are not going to tell us for fear of more attacks.
And it can't be as sensitive as you telling us that you wanted to take your own life and had the gun to your head, so I see no plausable reason for you not to say what it is. |
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