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Oldest TA virgin? (pg. 16)
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| torontotrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by spec
Okay people.
Since I am wrong, and all your guys are right, please explain to narrow minded spec the benefits of not having sex and staying a virgin for ages and ages. |
We never said you were wrong, but we also never said you were right. See my original problem with your posts was that you trashed religious people and that I won't put up with. I mean you may not believe in religion but why hate religious people?. 99.9% of religious people don't commit crimes and are good citizens of their city and country. |
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| spec |
Cmon, you guys can do better than that.
I outlined the reasons why I thought saving yourself for marriage and remaining a virgin was a bad choice. And I was criticised for my opinions.
So the least you can do is outline the benefits of such a life decision, and why you do it.
I'm expecting a whole lot of 'it means more if you wait', and 'its more special' and other crap.
I can tell you that once you start having sex you realise thats its really no big deal and you will wonder why you were so stupid to wait for so long. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by torontotrance
We never said you were wrong, but we also never said you were right. See my original problem with your posts was that you trashed religious people and that I won't put up with. I mean you may not believe in religion but why hate religious people?. 99.9% of religious people don't commit crimes and are good citizens of their city and country. |
Yep. If he thinks sex is the only way to go, fine. But at least have some sort of open mind. |
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| spec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seventil
Yeah Shado, I was going to comment on this also.
spec, let me educate you. Those "stupid misguided ideals" you talk about have been around a lot longer than 50 years ago. It was a humanistic/Darwinian outlook on life (introduced about a 100 years ago, made popular... you guessed it, about 50 years ago!) that have changed society from our "boring traditional ways" to your new and improved neo-Darwinian outlook on life. Basically, if there is no God, why not as many men women and animals as you can, right? Whatever feels good!
It's you're outlook on life that has caused drastic increases in divorce, STD's, death, disease and general unhappiness.
So, before you accuse us "fundies" of causing something, know what the piss you are talking about. |
Alright, so now we have an attempt at a deep and meaningful response to what was just a passing comment.
You are attempting to explain the ideals of modern day society as being bad, but I can say that religious expectations have also changed with time just the same as society's. In your parents lifetime religious organisations protested against the introduction of what they believed imodest bathing suits, but now this is not a an issue. |
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| isoterra |
| quote: | Originally posted by spec
I can tell you that once you start having sex you realise thats its really no big deal and you will wonder why you were so stupid to wait for so long. |
What's this? If it's 'no big deal' then why the buggery have you been harping on about it so much over the past few pages like people are worthless without it?
And if it IS no big deal then I see no reason to be desperate for it. Not like I did before but anyway. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by spec
Cmon, you guys can do better than that.
I outlined the reasons why I thought saving yourself for marriage and remaining a virgin was a bad choice. And I was criticised for my opinions.
So the least you can do is outline the benefits of such a life decision, and why you do it.
I'm expecting a whole lot of 'it means more if you wait', and 'its more special' and other crap.
I can tell you that once you start having sex you realise thats its really no big deal and you will wonder why you were so stupid to wait for so long. |
If it's no big deal, then why do you claim it to be a necessity before marriage?
Like I said, we live different lifestyles. You wouldn't understand because you chose a different path.
All the more power to you. All I'd like you to do is to accept the fact that everyone is different and has their own beliefs. |
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| torontotrance |
oh you wanted my view point and if you don't think this is acceptable, well you can stuff it
See I answer to a higher authority, I believe that I will have to answer to him after my life is over. So I follow the Bible's teachings, which I believe to be an error free book. The Bible has changed my life for the better and I have eternal happiness. So a)the bible says sex is good, God made sex, so it must be good but God designed it under certain circumstances (i.e marriage). I mean when I followed other religions, my life hit the lowest point ever. I went back to being a Christian because of my own decision. So the Bible says two become one during sex and it also says that God will judge us on our actions. The other reasons for being celibate are not just religion based, I've seen many friends do what you did and I found they were more unhappy than others because of it and I figured I did not want to end up like them. So spec's view means nothing, neither does anyone on this board's, I answer to God and him alone. I'm not asking for people to agree with me, nor am I asking for being to become Christians, your belief system is something that you alone deal with based on facts and things that happen. What bothers me is when certain people go after me for just being a Christian, that's racist and pathetic, you are hating someone because of their belief system. I mean I tend to be interested in other people's view point about things, I like to converse and find out what makes them think like they do, every person is different but I respect other's beliefs and I hope they respect mine, I don't expect them to agree with me but at least don't hate me for what I believe. |
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| Orbax |
hey dont mess up my thread :p
Spec, youre adorable, but stop baiting, its too obvious. |
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| spec |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
If it's no big deal, then why do you claim it to be a necessity before marriage?
Like I said, we live different lifestyles. You wouldn't understand because you chose a different path.
All the more power to you. All I'd like you to do is to accept the fact that everyone is different and has your own beliefs. |
Cmon Mr Moral Crusader, I want to know the benefits of holding off.
There have got to be some surely?
When I said that it wasn't a big deal, I meant that your first time, losing your virginity, its not landing a man on the moon. In fact it takes a fair while before you can properly, and more than a few different partners with different styles and techniques.
I've met more than a few girls that have dated religious types and those that wait, that have never known the meaning of the 'O' experience and I'd say that you boys will probably never pull it off. |
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| Clovis86 |
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Originally posted by spec
What a pack of absolute pussies!!!
I wonder if we can get some skirts for Orbax, djdust, hadi ******, Weymouth, PhloTron, torontotrance, Gunyouken, Vlad, isoterra and THE_Chris?
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| quote: | I outlined the reasons why I thought saving yourself for marriage and remaining a virgin was a bad choice. And I was criticised for my opinions.
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| trancebrat |
My unsolicited two cents.
I respect those of you that are waiting to have sex for whatever reason. If you are doing it for religious reasons then that is something that I won't address because that decision should be respected. Those that don't really have a reason there are some things that you should know that most people just never talk about. It is possible that you and your partner may end up not being compatible in the bedroom. I don't care what anyone tells you...if you are not compatible your relationship is headed for trouble. I have dated people where I thought that things were good and had a lot of potential, but when it came down to it the sex was just horrible. You may think that you will just "work" on it and things will be all better. It's just not that easy. Once you have sex you will understand what I am talking about. For me it wasn't an option because after a few times of "trying" I just completely lost interest. You may think that sounds shallow and maybe to a degree it is. You have to remember this though...when you get married that is the person that you are going to spend the rest of your life with. That means that is the only person that you will have sex with for the rest of your life. Let go of the idea that "but I love her so I will love making love to her". Love does not make you compatible. Why do you think so many couples dwindle down to only having sex a few times a year? They just didn't click. I told my parents when I was younger that I could not imagine not knowing what I was getting myself into with someone. I want to be happy in all aspects of the relationship...including sex. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by spec
Cmon Mr Moral Crusader, I want to know the benefits of holding off.
There have got to be some surely? |
I said it twice. Unless you have the beliefs/attitued/opinions/other things that I have, you wouldn't understand. I also mentioned in another post that I don't see the need to at this moment, as I can have plenty of fun doing regular stuff. |
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