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Ferry Corsten and Paul van Dyk Friday 17. Dec 2004, Start: 23.00 (pg. 2)
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
good vandit night guests = Timo Maas, Sander Kleinenberg, Nick Warren, Sasha, Jerry Bonham etc etc
bad vandit night guests = ferry corsten.
spot the difference :wtf: |
There's a difference from thinking he's and him not fitting into the Vandit Night setup. I believe you just claimed both. |
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| Laushinameee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
There's a difference from thinking he's and him not fitting into the Vandit Night setup. I believe you just claimed both. |
what are you on about now?
He clearly doesnt fit in, id propose the only reason hes booked is to get a good crowd from holland going. Thats the reason tiesto plays LFA. PvD's choices of guests are all in the other room (Timo Maas, Moguai, Rene Vaitl .... ) |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
He clearly doesnt fit in |
Why not? Just answer my question. |
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| Laushinameee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Why not? Just answer my question. |
because he plays a totally different sound to 99% of any previous guest. Thats all there is to go on... and its plain to see.
look at the previous guests from 2000 - present
and look at him
he doesnt fit in. |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
because he plays a totally different sound to 99% of any previous guest. Thats all there is to go on... and its plain to see.
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Hm let's see, all of Paul's guests and most of the music Paul plays at a Vandit Night are of the progressive/trance spectrum. Granted, most of his are usually of the progressive kind, but that doesn't stop Paul from inviting people like Stefano Libelle, Nu NRG, Marc van Linden and Second Sun to his Vandit Nights. I fail to see why Ferry Corsten should fit any less in than those.
Also, Ferry is not all about dutch trance fluff. Looking at the Right Of Way tracklist proves that, as well as the recent gigs he has had in Germany. |
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| Laushinameee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Hm let's see, all of his guests and the music he plays at a Vandit Night is of the progressive/trance spectrum. Granted, most of his are usually of the progressive kind, but that doesn't stop him from inviting people like Stefano Libelle, Nu NRG, Marc van Linden and Second Sun to his Vandit Nights. I fail to see why Ferry Corsten should fit any less in than those. |
we are talking about berlin, not gatecrasher in the UK that happen to have 'vandit' written on the flyer.
Second Sun & Nu NRG play live sets, about 30 minutes of the entire night...
such as when Nu NRG played he'd also have jerry bonham on as the guest DJ...
ferry corsten as a guest dj playing (probably) a 3 hour set, is not really in keeping with the history of the whole thing. |
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| Laushinameee |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Sand Leaper Also, Ferry is not all about dutch trance fluff. Looking at the Right Of Way tracklist proves that, as well as the recent gigs he has had in Germany. |
yes hes trying to go towards a more 'electro trance' sound - something that PvD has been very critical of in the past..
in fact hes always been quite critical of ferry corsten
so i dont see how he fits into the guys own night. |
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| dj tek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
yes hes trying to go towards a more 'electro trance' sound - something that PvD has been very critical of in the past..
in fact hes always been quite critical of ferry corsten
so i dont see how he fits into the guys own night. |
but plays corsten tracks ? :haha: |
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| Laushinameee |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj tek
but plays corsten tracks ? :haha: |
when was the last time PvD played an original corsten track? |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
Second Sun & Nu NRG play live sets, about 30 minutes of the entire night...
such as when Nu NRG played he'd also have jerry bonham on as the guest DJ...
ferry corsten as a guest dj playing (probably) a 3 hour set, is not really in keeping with the history of the whole thing. |
Jerry Bonham got invited while he used to be a trance DJ too, just look at his early mixcds. And regardless of how long they play, it's still the same kind of sound that you obviously claim doesn't fit Vandit Nights. Yet you still get to hear it there.
I think the only reason you get all worked up over this is cos you think Ferry is , pure and simple. Why should Paul get slated for trying out something new with his nights as long as the crowd likes it?
And no, I don't mean Ferry's electro pastiches productionwise, I'm talking about variety DJ wise. And if Paul hates Ferry's "electro" productions so much, why has he played It's Time and Punk several times? |
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| Laushinameee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Jerry Bonham got invited while he used to be a trance DJ too, just look at his early mixcds. And regardless of how long they play, it's still the same kind of sound that you obviously claim doesn't fit Vandit Nights. Yet you still get to hear them there.
I think the only reason you get all worked up over this is cos you think Ferry is , pure and simple. Why should Paul get slated for trying out something new with his nights as long as the crowd likes it? |
because hes not trying anyting new, i know exactly why hes booked ferry & its got nothing to do with his strenght as an artist or a dj.
second sun hardly play a set full of ferry corsten trance anyway...
and i think nu nrg are too, and if im honest i dont see how they fit into vandit nights or onto the vandit label.
& yes i do think ferry is |
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| dj tek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
when was the last time PvD played an original corsten track? |
it doesnt matter if its original or remixed, because if the remix no longer represents the original sound, then it represents the remixer more than the original artst. ie. sweetest dreams[corsten], in the beginning again[corsten] as for original tracks,he played the out of punk. and a good dosage of indigo when it got mad old might i add:haha: |
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