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| veezee |
| quote: | Originally posted by tw1tch
Ebay wants you to try all these methods before filing, like waiting 30 days, and filing between 30 and 60 days. I was thinking I would wait thish week out, make him sweat a little since I had a 3rd party call and talk to him, outline what could happen to him, filing with the OPP and Windsor police, Canada Post, small claims court etc. So I'm HOPING that at the end of the week when he doesn't have his proof, he just refunds the money. He sounds like a kid who lives with his parents. If not, I'll go through every channel I have to make his life miserable.
That auctionboard website looks good, but the forums return a 404 not found. :) |
wierd, it was up a couple of days ago.. in anycase, dont let the bastard win.. lets go there and beat his ass! :)
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| dallastar |
| sorry to hear about this Kev! E-BAY SUCKS ASS for this... i am just starting this idea... to sell my art over e-bay witht his guy that has an account already, but I promise i wouldn't EVER scam anyone - this individual should be kicked up his wanker ass!~ |
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| avikonen |
From today's New York Times:
December 12, 2004
EBay Vigilantism
By SUSAN DOMINUS
Since its inception, the Internet has been likened to the Wild West, but a culture further along in its development would provide a more apt reference point: New York City in the 70's -- a vast metropolis, infinitely diverse, with pockets of untamed sleaze suggesting an overall tolerance for corruption in the system. Places like this breed a certain kind of vigilante hero -- not the brazen, spur-clinking swashbucklers of a lawless frontier but the silent, seething types, the unexpected, subterranean enforcers.
Enter the eBay vigilantes. This year you could find these people patrolling the electronics and rare-stamp and kitchenware offerings of the world's largest online auction house. Their goal is to stop dishonest auctioneers from selling products they don't actually have, and their deal-busting methods are wily: rescuing naive customers by outbidding them with outlandishly high offers (which they never pay); sending potentially fraudulent sellers seemingly innocent e-mail messages with surveillance systems attached; contacting would-be buyers to let them in on what they say are the telltale signs of a scam -- the hidden bidder list, the request to pay by Western Union, the false location. (Andorra, a principality in the Pyrenees, is frequently listed by swindlers who are based in Romania.)
''I got angry,'' says Greg Schiller, a computer and network technician in New Mexico who regularly spent an hour a day trawling eBay for frauds at the peak of his vigilantism this year. ''You know, the people who use eBay are not wealthy people. They're looking to get a deal. And these guys who are ripping them off are laughing at those people, and they're laughing at the law.''
EBay has a team of more than 1,000 employees -- among them former law-enforcement officials, computer programmers and customer-support representatives -- who are authorized to police the community. The company says it doesn't appreciate what it calls the vigilantes' ''auction interference,'' which can tip off lawbreakers, it claims, without actually stopping them. Not only did eBay decline to thank Schiller for the thousands of fake offers he told them about, but the company also threatened to suspend his account. All he has got in return for his vigilance are some coffee beans, a coffee grinder and a coffee machine from Capresso, a manufacturer grateful for his work in preventing fraudulent eBay sales of its products. Schiller is not one for gourmet coffee, and he isn't looking for compensation, but he says that he was perfectly happy to get the gift all the same. ''At least,'' he says, ''it showed someone's paying attention.'' |
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| Slag |
| Well I was writing about the PayPal buyer protection, then I realized everything was already mentioned. So yea:toothless |
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| StereoPrincess |
oh, kevin, i'm so sorry this happened to you. i know how much you wanted that thing.
first we will see what he does after being confronted by you and RJ. than we can see what eBay will do with that fraud reporting and such. |
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| tw1tch |
Basically the guy has ZERO proof that the package was sent AND delivered. Nobody had to sign for it, so in order for any transaction to take place, one sends money, the other sends the item. I have proof the money was sent and received, he has no proof the package was sent/delivered. Even if he HAS the receipt from Canada Post, he sent it regular mail, no insurance. I could just as easily say I never got it and he couldn't prove it was delivered.
I want to run the f*cker over. |
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| Crazy Serb |
| quote: | Originally posted by tw1tch
Basically the guy has ZERO proof that the package was sent AND delivered. Nobody had to sign for it, so in order for any transaction to take place, one sends money, the other sends the item. I have proof the money was sent and received, he has no proof the package was sent/delivered. Even if he HAS the receipt from Canada Post, he sent it regular mail, no insurance. I could just as easily say I never got it and he couldn't prove it was delivered.
I want to run the f*cker over. |
You might as well do that... but make sure you contact paypal RIGHT AWAY! Don't wait a week, a month or something, contact them NOW! |
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| tw1tch |
Update -
hahah, after our "investigator" made a call, he must have been ting his pants. He sent me an email this evening. Offering to return my money except for shipping ($10USD). He wanted my address to send a mail order to. I chuckled at that, I said Paypal only, no "deliveries", not going through this again. So we'll see, and I JUST noticed this now, the Canada Post Delivery Label has the package weight on it.
My package = 2.475kg
DJ-Mart Shipping Weight for EFX500 = 7 Pounds (3.2kg) (HERE)
Pioneer Product Page = 2.5kg (HERE)
No way you shipped an EFX500 with the manuals and packaging for the exact same if not lighter weight.
You ed with the wrong people buddy. :) (though, he hasn't made it very difficult). |
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| raveed |
| quote: | Originally posted by tw1tch
My package = 2.45kg
DJ-Mart Shipping Weight for EFX500 = 7 Pounds (3.2KG) (HERE)
Pioneer Product Page = 2.5kg (HERE)
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brilliant ... theres the clincher right there for u ... though its wrong for the buyer to be put through all the extra effort to claim his money back wen the sellers to blame .... |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by tw1tch
hahah, after our "investigator" made a call, he must have been ting his pants. |
Damn! That investigator must be good! |
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| amb_ |
Elementary, I'm sure.
Kevin, I hope you're able to resolve this quickly and smoothly. It's a shame that these sorts of tricks are tried on good people. |
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| tatgirl |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Damn! That investigator must be good! |
Were you the investigator, RJ? ;) |
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