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verndogs
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Originally posted by Eddie N MIAMI
Personally I think the NHL commish and the college football commitee are alot worse.


yeah, the college football committee is the worst. How many more years do we have to go through this BCS crap? Screw tradition, let the players decide the national championship on the field

(However, I think the BCS rankings is a good idea for playoff qualifications)
Member of X
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Originally posted by verndogs
yeah, the college football committee is the worst. How many more years do we have to go through this BCS crap? Screw tradition, let the players decide the national championship on the field

(However, I think the BCS rankings is a good idea for playoff qualifications)


Some game last night.... 55-17. BCS is a joke. They're gonna have a steering committee next year I guess like the NCAA but no playoffs. Oh joy...

8 team playoff determined by a steering committee/BCS formula makes too much sense....

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Originally posted by Matt
and now Randy Johnson trade to Yanks has been approved.

Baseball is going to , and Bob Selig is the worst commissioner EVER.


People said this about last year when the Yanks got A Fraud. Look what happened, possibly one of the most memorable years ever culminated by the sports story of the year in Boston winning. Hard for me to agree here.

As a Yankee fan, I'm just waiting for the Big Unit vs. Schilling in the playoffs. How can that not be exciting? Save parity for football. Yankees as the Evil Empire is too interesting. What has roughly a $200 million salary given to the Yankees since 2000? And how were those Yankee teams built vs. the current crop? Money doesn't buy championships, only regular season titles. Yankees play within the system. The baseball union is considered the strongest union in the entire country. They have anti-trust legislation. They won't go for a salary cap. Selig has done a pretty good job considering. Baseball has regenerated itself from the misery of the strike year quite well IMO. However, obviously the steroids problem is the huge underlying concern at the moment.
SlackerBoy9
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Originally posted by Shamez214
He's a .284 hitter who is trending upwards, not downwards. All his peropheral stats are trending up. His OBP in relation to his AVG has steadily gone up the past few years and last year it was .100 points higher than his BA. That's great. At Shea where he'd likely hit less homeruns and get more doubles, His AVG could probably be .300 and he could have a .400 OBP with 25-30 HRs. Granted, he's not worth 18$ million to most teams, but I think he is to the Mets. The Mets need a face to take over for Piazza. Beltran is that face. We have to overpay to get him, just like we'd have to overpay to get any big name FA. You think that if Johan Santana was a FA that he'd come to the Mets this year? Doubt it unless we gave him loads of cash. But with Beltran and Pedro, we may just start winning again which would in turn bring us players and we would no longer have to overpay.
:wtf: :crazy:

I'm still bent about the Scott Kazmir trade,wouldn't trade him for Soriano but they trade him for Victor "freaking " Zambrano...sigh....as decent a hitter as matsui is i get scared everytime i see a ball go towards him in the field.
Shamez214
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Originally posted by SlackerBoy9
I'm still bent about the Scott Kazmir trade,wouldn't trade him for Soriano but they trade him for Victor "freaking " Zambrano...sigh....as decent a hitter as matsui is i get scared everytime i see a ball go towards him in the field.


Soriano ain't much better. ;) And I remember when we traded Kaz. I felt like I had broken up with my girlfriend all over again. My heart was in my stomach that whole day. But... I love Victor Zambrano. Dude was nearly in tears when he got injured saying taht he was sorry he was disappointing Mets fans. Gotta love his heart... and his slider.

I think if we somehow manage Beltran, we need to get a defensive 1st basemen or Delgado. Delgado, while not great defensively, should make up on offense. I'd prefer Mientkiewicz though. A 1st baseman like that will make Wright, Reyes, and Matsui look THAT much better. We'd have 2 potential GG on the infield. Yumm.

BTW, a website/forum I go to is reporting that some Mets officials have told them that Beltran will sign with us. I'm still not getting my hopes up though... Also, nice to see another Mets fan around here. :wtf:
Mebot
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Originally posted by verndogs
(However, I think the BCS rankings is a good idea for playoff qualifications)


I doubt you'll see a playoff system coming to College Football anytime soon.. however there may be talks about adding another BCS bowl.

This so-called "fifth bowl" will be a plus-one meaning it would put the two best winners from the Sugar, Orange, Rose and Fiesta Bowls against each other in one final championship game.

oh and to not stray from the original topic too much.. The name sucks, it's too ing long.
Dj Smitty20
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Originally posted by Matt
and now Randy Johnson trade to Yanks has been approved.

Baseball is going to , and Bob Selig is the worst commissioner EVER.


Oh, quit bitching about the Yankees. I'm so tired of it (and Blue Jay fans are the worst). Even if you pansies got a salary cap and salaries were tied to revenues, the Yankees' payroll would still top well over 150 million anyway, if not much more. The Yankees gross over 450 million dollars every year in tickets, YES network and merchandising. So if you had a system similar to the NBA where a 60% cap is put on salaries, the yankees are STILL overspending everyone. And even though their payroll will top 200 million and Georgie will probably spend 80 million in revenue sharing, the yankees will STILL clear a profit.

Isn't the American dream tied to capitalism and the haves and have nots? Isn't this exactly what George Steinbrenner is doing? The Yankees have always been the most successful team. There will always be those with lots of money and those with not so much. That is the world we live in. Sports is no different, since it is a BUSINESS after all.

Go cry on the TSN.ca site...you'll fit in with the rest of the wankers just don't understand the reality of sports these days.
SlackerBoy9
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Originally posted by Shamez214
Soriano ain't much better. ;) And I remember when we traded Kaz. I felt like I had broken up with my girlfriend all over again. My heart was in my stomach that whole day. But... I love Victor Zambrano. Dude was nearly in tears when he got injured saying taht he was sorry he was disappointing Mets fans. Gotta love his heart... and his slider.

I think if we somehow manage Beltran, we need to get a defensive 1st basemen or Delgado. Delgado, while not great defensively, should make up on offense. I'd prefer Mientkiewicz though. A 1st baseman like that will make Wright, Reyes, and Matsui look THAT much better. We'd have 2 potential GG on the infield. Yumm.

BTW, a website/forum I go to is reporting that some Mets officials have told them that Beltran will sign with us. I'm still not getting my hopes up though... Also, nice to see another Mets fan around here. :wtf:

Mientkiewicz seems like the more probable choice at this point especially with millar crying about playing time,Delgado is poised to sign with the orioles at the moment.Wright is going to be a stud and i am loving Cameron in the outfield..overall great guy.I am feeling more and more like Piazza will be moved and overall i am not very phased by it...I would love to also see Kris Benson do something there, otherwise the media will be all over him,sad that he is more known for his wifes pics than his playing ability.
Nice to know there are other Mets fans out there as well,lord knows it has been tough lately..heck ever since they let Olerud walk.Grew up in Long Island and used to catch the train up to queens to watch them all the time back when Lenny,mookie and Ho Jo were all still playing.
Shamez214
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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
Oh, quit bitching about the Yankees. I'm so tired of it (and Blue Jay fans are the worst). Even if you pansies got a salary cap and salaries were tied to revenues, the Yankees' payroll would still top well over 150 million anyway, if not much more. The Yankees gross over 450 million dollars every year in tickets, YES network and merchandising. So if you had a system similar to the NBA where a 60% cap is put on salaries, the yankees are STILL overspending everyone. And even though their payroll will top 200 million and Georgie will probably spend 80 million in revenue sharing, the yankees will STILL clear a profit.

Isn't the American dream tied to capitalism and the haves and have nots? Isn't this exactly what George Steinbrenner is doing? The Yankees have always been the most successful team. There will always be those with lots of money and those with not so much. That is the world we live in. Sports is no different, since it is a BUSINESS after all.

Go cry on the TSN.ca site...you'll fit in with the rest of the wankers just don't understand the reality of sports these days.


NY Times Yankee Article

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Consider that in addition to a 2004 payroll of $187.9 million, Steinbrenner, the Yankees' principal owner, was saddled last year with two other large expenses: $63 million to be paid into Major League Baseball's revenue-sharing fund and $25 million in luxury-tax payments, a penalty that only the Yankees have paid in each of the past two years. That meant that $276 million went to players and less-wealthy teams, from total revenue estimated at $315 million to $350 million, before Manager Joe Torre, the coaches, the front office, the minor league system and the rent were paid.
Member of X
And so that's $88 million given to smaller revenue clubs to spend (or pocket in some cases). Which goes to show that Georgie is strictly about winning. At the same time, follows the strategy that "you got to spend money to make money."

If the Yankees really don't pursue Beltran, then we now know what the cap is for the Yanks. $205 million.

Some reason the fans of Oakland and Minnesota haven't been bitching as much....
Shamez214
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Originally posted by Member of X
And so that's $88 million given to smaller revenue clubs to spend (or pocket in some cases). Which goes to show that Georgie is strictly about winning. At the same time, follows the strategy that "you got to spend money to make money."

If the Yankees really don't pursue Beltran, then we now know what the cap is for the Yanks. $205 million.

Some reason the fans of Oakland and Minnesota haven't been bitching as much....


Despite popular belief, Minnesota is not a small market team...

Member of X
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Originally posted by Shamez214
Despite popular belief, Minnesota is not a small market team...


Their salary was 53 million man. Small budget team. Finished 19th in total salary. Kiss my ass. Here's a look:

1 New York Yankees $184,193,950
2 Boston Red Sox $127,298,500
3 Anaheim Angels $100,534,667
4 New York Mets $96,660,970
5 Philadelphia Phillies $93,219,167
6 Los Angeles Dodgers $92,902,001
7 Chicago Cubs $90,560,000
8 Atlanta Braves $90,182,500
9 St. Louis Cardinals $83,228,333
10 San Francisco Giants $82,019,166
11 Seattle Mariners $81,515,834
12 Houston Astros $75,397,000
13 Arizona Diamondbacks $69,780,750
14 Colorado Rockies $65,445,167
15 Chicago White Sox $65,212,500
16 Oakland Athletics $59,425,667
17 San Diego Padres $55,384,833
18 Texas Rangers $55,050,417
19 Minnesota Twins $53,585,000
20 Baltimore Orioles $51,623,333
21 Toronto Blue Jays $50,017,000
22 Kansas City Royals $47,609,000
23 Detroit Tigers $46,832,000
24 Cincinnati Reds $46,615,250
25 Florida Marlins $42,143,042
26 Montreal Expos $41,197,500
27 Cleveland Indians $34,319,300
28 Pittsburgh Pirates $32,227,929
29 Tampa Bay Devil Rays $29,556,667
30 Milwaukee Brewers $27,528,5
Shamez214
I couldn't find it, but there's an article that shuts down the Minnesota is a small market team theory somewhere. If I find it, I'll post it.

But anyway, just because a team has a small payroll does not mean that it is a small market team... and vice versa with large payrolls and big market teams.
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