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u know for a trance board, alot of u are so anal about what music is not cheese (pg. 12)
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| Sykonee |
RE: Blue Balls' samples.
First one: I liked this stuff better when it was called Euro House.:confused:
Second one: Wow. I could have come up with that riff on my father's synths when I was 8 years old. In fact, I think I did.:stongue:
Third one: OMG!!!! HOLD ME!!! I'M RUSHING!!!! THE LAYZERS!!!:wtf: |
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| Blue Balls |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You're a . |
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The only facts here is you're a stupid little Internet sheep who's probably never seen inside a club before |
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Prat. |
This is what happens in a debate when one person is proven wrong with over-whelming evidence. There last resort is intimidation and personal attacks.
Thanks for the compliments btw :D |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blue Balls
This is what happens in a debate when one person is proven wrong with over-whelming evidence. There last resort is intimidation and personal attacks.
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When have you proven me wrong? When was I arguing with you? I think you've been over-whelmingly proven to be trying to sound smart and so are refusing to actually answer my argument. |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
No. It's an anthem. Unquestionably.
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i think your mixing up anthems and classics... |
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| Blue Balls |
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trying to sound smart and so are refusing to actually answer my argument. |
Profile For SYSTEM-J:
Birthday June 16th, 1988
I now understand your frustration.
Don't fret with time you will understand. :D |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
i think your mixing up anthems and classics... |
Er... no. What do you define as an anthem then? Any track centred around a large lead melody is an anthem in my eyes.
I'm not even going to bother carrying on with you, Dave. I can guarentee though that I've got wider and more developed music tastes than you, and also that I'm a hell of a lot smarter than you. |
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| Zombie0915 |
I think there is a double standard being used here in judging tracks as cheesy or not.
I find that many musicians who play styles of music that are commonly not considered cheesy, in fact do sound the same, and recycle themselves very often. Many "non cheesy" artists are just copying stuff from the 70's and 80's, I don't understand how this isn't cheesy while recycling the epic elements is.
I guess the esiest example of this I could use is sasha and digweed. No, I'm not calling S&D cheese, but you would have to be living under a rock to no realize that every time they change their sound half of the world emulates it. When S&D moved to dirty dark prog a few months later it dominated dance floors, when they moved to the electro rockish proggish mix up they are on now I could pick out a great many mixes that used tracks that they played. I think being yet another DJ who copies sasha and digweed is cheesy, but not many other people seem to agree because they are blinded by all the "monumental contributions" they have made to the scene.
And I'm still hearing the the same kind of sounds from Tony De Vit - Global Underground #1, yet miraculously it is still not cheesy, how!? |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Er... no. What do you define as an anthem then? Any track centred around a large lead melody is an anthem in my eyes.
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Alright if thats your definition. But then is every melodic track an anthem? |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0915
And I'm still hearing the the same kind of sounds from Tony De Vit - Global Underground #1, yet miraculously it is still not cheesy, how!? |
I think you answered your own question. |
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| Zombie0915 |
I think an anthem track requires a certain kind of melody in it. Its kinda hard to describe, but you can almost sense how a track attempts to make itself memorable.
I would call forbidden fruit an anthem because I think it has that same memorable feeling in it, and because it is on many compilation that have the word 'anthem' in it.
My favorite of which is JOOF - The Best Trance Anthems Ever |
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| Blue Balls |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0915
I think there is a double standard being used here in judging tracks as cheesy or not.
I find that many musicians who play styles of music that are commonly not considered cheesy, in fact do sound the same, and recycle themselves very often. Many "non cheesy" artists are just copying stuff from the 70's and 80's, I don't understand how this isn't cheesy while recycling the epic elements is.
I guess the esiest example of this I could use is sasha and digweed. No, I'm not calling S&D cheese, but you would have to be living under a rock to no realize that every time they change their sound half of the world emulates it. When S&D moved to dirty dark prog a few months later it dominated dance floors, when they moved to the electro rockish proggish mix up they are on now I could pick out a great many mixes that used tracks that they played. I think being yet another DJ who copies sasha and digweed is cheesy, but not many other people seem to agree because they are blinded by all the "monumental contributions" they have made to the scene.
And I'm still hearing the the same kind of sounds from Tony De Vit - Global Underground #1, yet miraculously it is still not cheesy, how!? |
On the previous page I wrote a lenghy definition of what cheese can be. I said cheese can come in many forms, i.e. cheesey trance cheesey techno, etc.
The focus in this thread is cheesey trance. Why? Becuase 1) its a trance forum 2) this is where more interest is for memebers of this forum ( I would be glad to talk about cheesey techno or cheesey prog. but I would go off topic). |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
Alright if thats your definition. But then is every melodic track an anthem? |
Melodic and centred around one lead melody are different kettles of fish. |
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