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UPLIFTING TRANCE is come back ;-) (pg. 5)
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| DuMonde TrAnCeR |
| quote: | Originally said by DJ Tiesto
"....It's great to show the world I'm not just another Ferry Corsten." |
yeh just like its great to have no legs! :rolleyes:
yes tiesto, what the world definatly needs is no more peopel like ferry corsten... :rolleyes:
*does a slow masturbationary movement with his hand in the direction of tiesto* |
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| fridgefan |
This topic seems to keep coming back again and again.
First of all, as some people mentioned, just because big names like Ferry and Tiesto change their style does not mean uplifting trance is dead. There's been loads of uplifting songs released this year - some of them very good too. They may not always show up in clubs, but they're out there. Everyone claims '98-'99 as the pinnacle of trance, yet there was a lot of crap released in those days also. People just remember the major hits.
Second there's only so far progressive house can go. Unless you're an established fan, it doesn't fare that well outside of a club. I could be wrong, but I couldn't see radio stations regularily playing deep progressive songs. Uplifting music, in some ways, is actually better outside of a club - you can really hear what's going on in the song when you listen at home. In a club, usually almost everything is overpowered by the pounding beat.
It's all about supply and demand. There is still a demand for uplifting trance music, that's why it's still made. Clubs are really into trends and the trend right now is progressive. I have a lot of friends who like progressive because it's the "in" thing to do. Not to say everyone who likes progressive is doing it for this reason... just that there is a large portion of clubbers that will like whatever's popular at the time. For all we know, rave could big again two years from now. The point is, just because uplifting music is not as trendy as it once was, that doesn't mean its dead. As long as albums and CD singles sell, it will be around. I mean, think about it... when was the last time you heard of major excitement over the release of a progressive artists new song on a single? On the other hand, how many times have I heard of Iio's Rapture on CD-5 in these threads?? There's a market still, it's just not as big in the clubs anymore |
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| mindshooter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
[B]after all u need more then 2 good songs for a genre to become popular. |
No kiddin? Who said that Gouryella and Rank 1 where the only uplifting producers? Do some research pal.
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
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Frankly, the uplifting trance period has passed and ppl should start accepting that and look towards what is currently hot instead of reminising about the days when "1998" or "For an Angel" were staple diets for Dj's.
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lol.... So you are trying to tell us to listen to whats hot? Personally i listen to what I think is good and not whats hot. Thats what i dont like with mainstream radio trax. People listen to them cause they are hot! And with trance its not like that. Think again. |
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| Tr@NzA |
| Uplifting is for people who love emotional music, whereas progressive is an evolution of uplifting trance, going some palce i dont know :) |
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| patticus |
| quote: | Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR
yeh just like its great to have no legs! :rolleyes:
yes tiesto, what the world definatly needs is no more peopel like ferry corsten... :rolleyes:
*does a slow masturbationary movement with his hand in the direction of tiesto* |
LMAO i dont always agree with you but no there bro
chris cowie, good stuff, but sometimes all that stuff on hook starts to sound the same to me... i cant take too much of christopher lawrence when there's no melody..
just a thought, its interesting how iio-rapture is probably the biggest tune of the year, AND most "mainstream" yet the first time i heard it i thought this is pretty progressive stuff... which it kinda is.
not cheese, just everyone likes it. definitely deeper than out of the blue, gouryella, etc... and yet everyone likes it!
kinda like urban train. that's not too bad if that's the new trend, we just need to get rid of all these horrible corsten-wannabes, it makes all new uplifting trance sound identical and lacklustre. |
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| Eugene |
I disagree with ALL of you.
First of all I don't like Iio - Rapture that much. I don't know about you, but it sounds a bit unlike most trance stuff, even the vocals are unlike the typical trance ones. You can call me "narrow-minded", but trance tunes have a certain structure and style. This tune is something that Oakenfold would just love to spin. Lots of "theatrics" and supposed "feeling." Just my opinion.
Secondly, why is it that when someone mentions "epic/uplifting", you immediately think "Gouryella and Ferry and Tiesto and Rank1"? I can tell you that I am an epic/uplifting DJ, I LOVE this genre and will defend it to any lamer who disses it in favor progressive/techno, and yet I do not like Gouryella or Ferry Corsten that much! THEY sound cheesy and formulaic to me. Meanwhile, there are lots of European (and American) trance artists who produce uplifting, quality music, that's great to dance to, and is at the same time quite emotional. Take Nu NRG, for example. They released what is arguably the best epic masterpiece of 2001, "Dreamland." But these Italian artists were little-known before, it wasn't until PvD "discovered" them and signed them on to Vandit that they became known. Even now not that many people know about them.
Every week I explore new epic/uplifting trance releases on different sites. As always, there are tracks that I like and don't like. But all of you seem to be living in the past with "Gouryella" and "Ferry" and "Tiesto" and all that! No wonder you bemoan the fact that "uplifting trance is dying." If all you do is reminisce about the past (which wasn't, by the way, all as good as everyone romanticizes it) without learning about NEW GREAT EPIC TUNES, then OF COURSE this genre will lose its appeal for you! Learn that there is a world of emerging artists WELL BEYOND Ferry and Gouryella! |
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| DJ Xtronic |
| quote: | Originally posted by verminator
if you compare these two with other trance prdoucers, no they aren't cheesy.
but if you compare those two with other techno producers, yes they are cheesy
dont get me wrong.. im not saying that i dont like those two, just trying to tell you what Jukx trying to say ( i hope i have understood it wright)
the sound of techno will never become commersial and it will always stay underground ;)
thats just one of the things i love with it ;))) |
Hmm.....since when has cheesy become the antonym of underground....
Personally I think what sasha plays....prog house...is totally cheesy.
Yeah thats right, theres a point for u to argue. But once again, thats my opinion, and I don't expect anyone to take it as a fact. I just think that many uplifting lovers will agree with me on this.....prog house has nothing on uplifting trance.....and probably never will |
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| Eugene |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spartak
Sorry, even though I love uplifting your argument is pathetic. Gouryeella and Rank 1 sound chesy??? So if their cheesy what about that "Suezea" rubbish you keep mentioning? Rank 1 and Gouryella are way above the level of that! |
LOL, that's just my opinion.
The main point I wanted to make, is that I'm surprised that when it comes to uplifting trance, most people just automatically think "Gouryella-Ferry-Tiesto-Rank1" and then STOP. :rolleyes:
They also think "PvD", but, as was discussed in a separate thread, he's not always about uplifting...
I know that I will definitely get flamed -- because you see, on this site there are basically two camps: uplifting lovers and prog lovers. (Mainly.) And, not surprisingly, those in the uplifting camp worship Gouryella-Ferry-Rank1 and all that. I also consider myself an epic/uplifting lover, but I don't listen to that. I listen to stuff by Sunscreem, K90, other artists... you see, they're not as popular as Ferry and Gouryella, but they're just as good -- and IMO much better.
Again, my point was that epic/uplifting is not just about Ferry and Gouryella, there are others beyond them, and new artists emerge all the time. |
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| DuMonde TrAnCeR |
| quote: | Originally posted by patticus
LMAO i dont always agree with you but no there bro
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nobody always agress with me, i was put on this earth to piss people off :) |
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| mindshooter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eugene
most people just automatically think "Gouryella-Ferry-Tiesto-Rank1" and then STOP. :rolleyes:
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I dont.... I hardly never listen to their old trax anymore. I liste to other producers.......you say you disagree with everyone..... you disagree wiht me to? I said that there are other producers there to take Tiestos and Corstens place when they are gone. There will always be uplifting trance as long as people listen to it...isnt that what you are saying to? |
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| patticus |
well i automatically think about most of the new pvd caned tracks but i dont suggest them cuz everyone's always so dutch-gung-ho
yeah Nu-NRG of course.. like ive been saying, NEW PRODUCERS.
did no one read my posts????
solicitous, steve gibbs, second sun, those sonorous/mirco de govia guys... there's plenty out there waiting to be discovered
its not all about rank 1 (I DONT LIKE THEM THAT MUCH)
and gouryella just seems to be the basic standard everyone mentioned.
btw eugene, i dont like iio that much, i just mentioned that point that it seems deeper for a "mainstream hit" |
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| Eugene |
| quote: | Originally posted by mindshooter
I dont.... I hardly never listen to their old trax anymore. I liste to other producers.......you say you disagree with everyone..... you disagree wiht me to? I said that there are other producers there to take Tiestos and Corstens place when they are gone. There will always be uplifting trance as long as people listen to it...isnt that what you are saying to? |
that's right, sorry about that
I agree with you, mindshooter |
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