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do you believe in, but ignnore god? (pg. 5)
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by stevieboy32808
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The generally agreed upon answer to that is "day" is translated as "A period of time" it was just going through the eras of creation.
The people who say Science contradicts The Bible are people arguing young earth thats 6000 years old by tracing back biblical geneology.
Its not as big of a rift as people think. When it said that the species were created immutable it wasnt saying micro evolution doesnt happen, just that macro doesnt. That in 10000 years a frog wont be a bird. I dont get why people think its so crazy. |
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| Mr. Pink |
it's funny........
i see so many different words and phrases.
i see the flowering of language within this thread. It's splendid...
...however all I seem to comprehend from all these words and phrases is, "BLAbablablablabla whine whine bitch icrymuch omg wtf wtf wtf bbq? omG!"
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| Subey |
I think the "safest" perspective about God is to hate him until he proves otherwise.
It's not just that there is suffering in the world, its that there is a TON of suffering in the world.
Which story is more likely to start the evening news tomorrow, in a month, a year, a decade, a century?:
"New Cancer Treatment developed in Ethiopia"
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"Ethnic unrest in Sudan results in 10,000 deaths"
People on earth live in this constant state of misery. Its nice if you are having an okay time of it, but the fact of the matter is that most of us aren't.
Even at the top of the food chain... living in the West and working in an "Office" is a kind of hell. If the monotony of the job doesn't kill you then the office politics will.
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But the real Reality killer for me is the future. When the future is guaranteed to be worse than the past then Civilisation has reached its breaking point.
Or as my wise friend once said "The Technocrats will rule Dystopia"
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But it's all good, Leeloo will save us from the darkness... |
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| Pariah Cleric |
Personally, I think all the reliable religions' gods/spirits exist in a Pantheon, like the Greek/Roman gods. God/Allah, the Vodun spirits, Satan (both the devil and the Satanist nature spirit), etc. etc.
But then again, it may be due to my love for religion and my indecisiveness. |
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| Orbax |
| People being crappy to one another and choosing to work in a cubicle their entire life doesnt have much to do with an omnipotent being from another dimension... |
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| Xenocreator_PG_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subey
Even at the top of the food chain... living in the West and working in an "Office" is a kind of hell. If the monotony of the job doesn't kill you then the office politics will.
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:haha: :stongue: :stongue: :haha: :stongue: :stongue: aahhhh office politics is a killer
| quote: | Originally posted by Subey
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But the real Reality killer for me is the future. When the future is guaranteed to be worse than the past then Civilisation has reached its breaking point.
Or as my wise friend once said "The Technocrats will rule Dystopia" |
hmmm yes, expect the spike in another 50 years or so.
The population will grow to such a size that when someone starts a chinese whisper with "hello to you Sue" it will come out at the end as "Die religious fairy nigga god worshipper scum do her in teh pooper" |
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| Subey |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
People being crappy to one another and choosing to work in a cubicle their entire life doesnt have much to do with an omnipotent being from another dimension... |
That being is unaware of human nature? Unaware of the resources on earth? Unaware of how we will use them?
My favourite example is...
Your ominipotent god placed us on a planet where it is CHEAPER to make gunpowder than it is to make butter.
What you are arguing is this. Somewhere God is saying "That's not meant for guns! I wanted humans to only use it for fireworks!".
God isn't that naive. Are you? |
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| stamper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Acton
yer, no offence to anyones religion, but hopefully one day everyone will realise that there is no 'higher being' helping you out there. |
This isn't what religion is all about. Many people take the view that a religion / christianiy should help you in some way or stop things from happening.
Christianity / religion in general in my opinion is more about helping other people out.
It is not just about what happens after life, but also what cna be done to make living better today. For exmaple, how good would this world be to live in if it was filled with genuine, loving people? Many religions encourage this behaviour.
Even if there happens to be no heaven / afterlife, a belief and following in god will lead to a better life for the people of today.
Hope this makes sense. :conf: |
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subey
That being is unaware of human nature? Unaware of the resources on earth? Unaware of how we will use them?
My favourite example is...
Your ominipotent god placed us on a planet where it is CHEAPER to make gunpowder than it is to make butter.
What you are arguing is this. Somewhere God is saying "That's not meant for guns! I wanted humans to only use it for fireworks!".
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dude...butter is made from milk which is what cows squirt out. You can turn grass into butter and grass is one of the most renewable resources ever.
Gun powder...you couldnt make that without looking it up on the internet, you have no idea.
and re-read my post about a physical natural world with rules like physics and chemistry that let us do with it all what we will.
Taking your argument would be saying trees turn into spears as well and god gave us 10 billion spears to kill each other with. Its flawed logic. |
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by stamper
This isn't what religion is all about. Many people take the view that a religion / christianiy should help you in some way or stop things from happening.
Christianity / religion in general in my opinion is more about helping other people out.
It is not just about what happens after life, but also what cna be done to make living better today. For exmaple, how good would this world be to live in if it was filled with genuine, loving people? Many religions encourage this behaviour.
Even if there happens to be no heaven / afterlife, a belief and following in god will lead to a better life for the people of today.
Hope this makes sense. :conf: |
that makes sense I think...People put too much emphasis on this God that sits there like a frigging computer game lifting you out of water and when you die putting your soul into heaven and making you happy for eternity. The emphasis IS on your daily interactions with fellow man in every religion. Just do it with who your father is in mind. |
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| Mr. Pink |
do you all really think you can assign a human understanding to something divine?
why even bother discussing it.
you are all wrong anywayz.
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr. Pink
do you all really think you can assign a human understanding to something divine?
why even bother discussing it.
you are all wrong anywayz.
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My main point is human interaction would be better with a philsophy of love behind it. Its not trying to get into some metaphysical discussion, except that that seems to be what everyone argues about...when its the most inarguable thing ever because no one can do anything more than circumstantial evidence put through a filter of perception that is necessarily biased. |
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