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Chord Progression in Epic/Anthem/Progressive Trance (pg. 6)
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| superddman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bedlam-UK
what I meant by rules was...there are no rules to how you play your instrument to make the sounds........and what I meant by, did mozart have a teacher....was.....who taught the first musician...not that mozart was the first musician...but a master at his instrument.
if you have ever watched 2001: a space odyssey, the scene where the ape picks up a bone and creates the first tool for mankind......there were no rules and no teachers...you see :crazy:....or was it that strange monolith that gave the ape the intelligence...I never really understood what that monolith was...maybe our intelligence originates from another planet :crazy:....well mine certainly does :crazy:
this got me thinking so I was sidetracked to this site......
2001:space odyssey meaning... |
wow, can i have some of that you're taking? hehe, jk
btw, good analogy :D |
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| RichieV |
well i can guarantee that every single trance hit ever made follows the established guidelines.
SO i suppose it is your choice. Lots of artists don't follow any rules. ANd to most people , it sounds like complete noise. |
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| superddman |
ok, let me get this right
chord progression = notes that nicely follow after each other.
For a 16 bar length melody, wouldn't there be a specific amount of combinations?
Could somebody calculate how many are there? I am talking here about equal length chords that start one after another.
hehe, i know, this sounds crazy
then you take these basic combinations, adjust lengths of chords, layer them differently and come up with new things. |
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| RichieV |
| quote: | Originally posted by superddman
ok, let me get this right
chord progression = notes that nicely follow after each other.
For a 16 bar length melody, wouldn't there be a specific amount of combinations?
Could somebody calculate how many are there? I am talking here about equal length chords that start one after another.
hehe, i know, this sounds crazy
then you take these basic combinations, adjust lengths of chords, layer them differently and come up with new things. |
chord progression = succession of chords ( group of notes played at the same time) that sound good together. IN trance , the chords are most often arpegiated so altho what might seem like alternating notes is really part of a chord.
there are hundreds of variations you could do. It is really to much to name all of them. |
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| superddman |
| richiev, i know you can do it. come on man, maybe you can use it for your thesis paper hehe |
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| RichieV |
| i just don't see the point |
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| RichieV |
| no offense man but that would sound horrible |
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| Bedlam-UK |
| quote: | Originally posted by MadThijs
Buy a theory book and find it out yourself.
I start with one key which has 12 chords you can use.
To put words in practise here's a 16 bar progression with the chords changing every bar so:
Second version, which shows the sentences and the chords I end up with in my composition
Here we go with where the chords can be found:
Cmaj\Edim\F\G7/B
Cmajor, Edim(E-G-Bb-D), F share the scale of F
G7/B can be found in C major
A#dim\Em\C#dim\G7
Em has two notes in A#dim. I don't know if I used whole/half or whole/half in A#dim but with the last all notes of Em chord are in the A# dim scale and in the C# dim scale. G7 is again at the end of four beats but this time with the G as lowest note(bass note)
Am\G/Eb\Dm7\C C7/Bb
All in Am exept for some alteration
G/Eb is a way to write down Eb-G-B-D
Dm7 is II in C
G#dim\A\F#dim\Dm G9
G#dim whole/half so you hear G#,A#,B,C#,D,E,F,G,
In G#dim whole half there's also G#-b-d-e which is on V in A
F#dim moves to G9 with Dm inbetween.
What's the melody like? I ended up with a not very happy sound if you play some chord notes in a two voice piece.
Thanks to usefull comments I won't
"make a mp3 soon"
Maybe YOU can play just the chords, and put a sample online.
Now it will sound less horible:) |
I want some of this being smoked here :crazy: |
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| MadThijs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bedlam-UK
I want some of this being smoked here :crazy: |
He another usefull comment........................ |
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| Tech0rz |
| quote: | Originally posted by MadThijs
He another usefull comment........................ |
...and one more for the road ?
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| Bedlam-UK |
:haha:
chickens don't fly south for winter but a big beaver covered in brown sauce does wonders for your gran's varicose veins...... |
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| RichieV |
| quote: | Originally posted by MadThijs
How do you know that??!!??!!??!!
You probably have a problem understanding my musical language ;)
It sounds nice in a two voice piece. Because you were so nice to give your comments before even giving the right progression you can dream how it will sound. I'm composing my own music so it may sound horrible to you but I like it this way.
Do you want a harmonic analisys of my progression? Yes it might be spelled incorrect but if you change one note exept the roor i.e. the twelve notes in a octave it stays a chord on a noot from C to C and al the Chords have a function. At that point we are back to last nights argument so I'd only like to know what's wrong and leave it there.
This is what I changed a few posts above
Here we go with where the chords can be found:
Cmaj\Edim\F\G7/B
Cmajor, Edim(E-G-Bb-D), F share the scale of F
G7/B can be found in C major
A#dim\Em\C#dim\G7
Em has two notes in A#dim. I don't know if I used whole/half or whole/half in A#dim but with the last all notes of Em chord are in the A# dim scale and in the C# dim scale. G7 is again at the end of four beats but this time with the G as lowest note(bass note)
Am\G/Eb\Dm7\C C7/Bb
All in Am exept for some alteration
G/Eb is a way to write down Eb-G-B-D
Dm7 is II in C
G#dim\A\F#dim\Dm G9
G#dim whole/half so you hear G#,A#,B,C#,D,E,F,G,
In G#dim whole half there's also G#-b-d-e which is on V in A
F#dim moves to G9 with Dm inbetween. |
it still sounds horrid man
And i also have no idea what you are trying to say.
I get the feeling you are just throwing chord names and words you have no idea what they mean. At least in english.
G/Eb means a G triad over Eb root. which would be GBD over eb. NOt something you would ever want to use for trance.
Again this thread is for harmonic progressions for trance. Every you have mentioned thus far would sound absolutely horrible and out of place in a trance context. |
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