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Dumb things some Americans say about Canada (pg. 4)
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by IbizaGuy
There will always be racism due to ing ******s like you, man, because you instigate and provoke it first. |
Actually you were the one that piped in with "Right wingers are ing ass holes". But that's okay, because *you* said it, right?
Evidently English isn't one of those three languages you speak... you only seem to know 4-letter words. :rolleyes: |
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| cyper |
Lets face reality here. The only reason Americans hate us Canadians is because they know our beer is better & we can kick their ass at drinking.
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One of these days we are gunna have to kick europes ass at drinking! |
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| abort416 |
may i remind you all that while your memories of the republican party seems to only go back to 1964 (barry goldwater) it was the 1864 republican presidential incumbent candidate (abraham lincoln) who was in the midst of fighting a war that would end slavery in the united states and give african americans their freedom....ya thats a really racist move.
not to mention klansman, er senator robert byrd (democrat) and (a klansman when he was a democrat) strom thurmond.
and just by the way barry goldwater didnt want to take away african american civil rights
(taken from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater )
"Locally he was a supporter of the Arizona NAACP and was involved in desegregating the Arizona National Guard. As a Senator, he was a supporter of the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and 1960. However, he opposed the much more comprehensive Civil Rights Act of 1964 on the grounds that it was an inappropriate extension of the federal commerce power to private citizens in order to "legislate morality" and restrict the rights of employers."
ya he sounds like a big racist to me...responsible for desegregating the nat'l guard unit in his state and supported the civil rights acts that he didnt believe violated the rights of the government as granted by the constitution.
that is not called being racist it is called being conscientiousness in the face of being misinterpreted....sort of like what john kerrys- supposed- reasoning was behind rejecting defense bills and contracts -- he supposedly knows a better way of arming the troops (though he has yet to suggest one) and so does not care that he is seen as being a weak kneed hippie liberal who does not support the troops and helps americas enemies fight the public relations and moral battles of the war on terror
oh and by the way i have been with canadians in america and noone said anything to them that could be interpretted as insulting....i think the worst it ever got was homer simpson calling canada america jr.
conversely i am with canadians all the time. i am an american in canada and on a daily basis i experience and bare the brunt of the vile and poisonous hatred, lies, and insults that spew out of the average canadians on a regular basis dont leave me at any doubt as to why americans back home are getting a little bit annoyed at our cousins to the north; after many years here i can see how one might believe that the defining feature of the canadian identity is that they are not-americans. its always been there as an undercurrent -- upper and lower canada were only really developed as colonies after the british lost the revolutionary war and their american colonies. beforehand u.canada and l.canada were pretty much just a collection of fur trading posts; so canada became a place for british loyalists to come up from the former colonies and live in an area of north america that was british and was, wait for it, NOT THE UNITED STATES :eyes: ...and for british settlers to come and find resources in north america on land that was...again? NOT THE UNITED STATES. :eyes: oh yeah and it was developed as a military outpost in the hopes of one day retaking the USA but also to guard against possible american expansionism across the length of north america.
wow that was a lot longer than i thought itd be..i now await the flaming that will ensue |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamen DJ's
If Bush never used bigotry & fake patriotism ( fake since he sold out the country that elected him ) he would have never been re elected. His campaign speeches proved to me that he is not intellectually capable of running any country. As a dual citizen, I'm glad I( voted for John Kerry ). Bush, and his senior political advisor, Carl Rowe who is now under criminal investigation; have repeatedly bashed other countries ( remember the "freedom fries" stupidity ), gays, and now immigrants to score political points with the dumbest voters in America. The other half of the country ( the more educated people ) already realizes the president is incompetent and nothing now will change that.
Just the other day, George Bush admitted to illegal domestic wiretapping without court orders on national TV. I seriously did not think he would admit to that, but the reporter wouldn't drop the issue. That is an impeachable offense, that will be investigated. My guess is that Bushes second term won't last much longer than Richard Nixons, who I personally think, even though a bit corrupt, was a better president. |
And martin is using fake patriotism and bigotry to score political points as well. Meaning hes just as bad as bush. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamen DJ's
The Right Wings like to "spread freedom" to other parts of the world ( usually when they don't want to help pay for it, and when it's not their own kids dying in war ) but don't see any thing wrong with a president who is secretly conducting wiretapping on Americans without a court order. That is an impeachable defense, I would like to see how Rush Limbaugh defends that. I'm sure he will, since he has his head so far up Bushes ass. He would have even defended Nixon in his second term. |
right wing canadian and right wing american are very different ideals. Most canadian right wing people would be consider left of centre in the US including myself. |
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| Shamen DJ's |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Maybe - it's the first I've heard of it, but I honestly don't know. That may depend on exactly what you define as "civil rights" if it's Affirmative Action he ran against, good for him. Anyway, even if he campaigned to bring black slavery, what's your point? Is your implication that Left-wingers have never done anything similarly stupid (like, say, ethnically cleansing an entire country, plunging half the world into a cold war, then completely falling apart after each and every social program went bankrupt)? :rolleyes:
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I guess I just not only proved that you don't know what your talking about, I also proved I know Black history better than you do, and I'm East European.
Barry M. Goldwater ran for president in the U.S. in 1964 & launched a revolution in the Republican Party, even though he only carried the 6 most racist states ( all in the deep South ) in the country & 36% of the popular vote.
During his 1964 presidential campaign, Mr. Goldwater was attacked by Democrats & opponents within his own party as a leader of right wing extremists & racists who was likely to lead the U.S. into nuclear war, eliminate civil rights progress & destroy social welfare programs such as social security. He agreed with apartheid between blacks & whites.
In December 1961, he told a news conference that "sometimes I think this country would be better off if we could just saw off the Eastern Seaboard & let if float out to sea". That comment came back to haunt him for years. He also voted in the senate against the 1964 Civil Rights Act ( which Democrat Lyndon B. Johnson signed ) declaring it was unconstitutional, and he backed restrictive amendments to earlier civil rights legislation. Almost all blacks voted against him. |
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| Shamen DJ's |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
And martin is using fake patriotism and bigotry to score political points as well. Meaning hes just as bad as bush. |
That may be true, but that has been a worldwide trend this year, resulting from the fact that George Bush has pissed off & polarised almost the entire world this year. Nationalism resulting from despise of Bushes cowboy, my way or no way, no compromise tactics has influence elections from Spain ( their new elected president pulled out of Iraq ),
Iran ( that dudes as sick as Adolf Hitler, if it wasn't for the Iraq mess, he probably would have not been elected ), all the way to Bolivia ( a coke farmer who hates the U.S. and admires Chavez just got elected ). A trend that scares me in South America is that anti Bush sentiment is helping communists get elected, and that continent made their Bush hatred very clear during a recent visit.
Unfortunately for the Canadian Conservatives right now, is that they will suffer directly as a result of Bushes forign incompetencies. Any show of support they show for Bush before election would likely link them to a war that is even more unpopular even in the U.S. than was Vietnam just almost 4 years into it. |
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| Shamen DJ's |
During the time I've been in the U.S. most of the comments I've heard about Canada have been about people trips to Canada, or the fact they wan't to visit Canada, or wan't to go back to Canada. The current president has shown disrespect for the entire world ( Kyoto Treaty is one example ) and Canada is no exeption. Bushes presidency ( half the country did not even vote for him ) won't last forever, and likely relations with Canada will likely improve greatly after that.
There is alot of hatred of the U.S. worldwide, and that has more to do with bad foreign policy from elected officials than it has to do with everyday average people who in most cases aren't much different than Canadians. |
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| Shamen DJ's |
| quote: | Originally posted by abort416
may i remind you all that while your memories of the republican party seems to only go back to 1964 (barry goldwater) it was the 1864 republican presidential incumbent candidate (abraham lincoln) who was in the midst of fighting a war that would end slavery in the united states and give african americans their freedom....ya thats a really racist move.
not to mention klansman, er senator robert byrd (democrat) and (a klansman when he was a democrat) strom thurmond.
and just by the way barry goldwater didnt want to take away african american civil rights
(taken from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater )
"Locally he was a supporter of the Arizona NAACP and was involved in desegregating the Arizona National Guard. As a Senator, he was a supporter of the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and 1960. However, he opposed the much more comprehensive Civil Rights Act of 1964 on the grounds that it was an inappropriate extension of the federal commerce power to private citizens in order to "legislate morality" and restrict the rights of employers."
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The Civil Rights Bill was one of the most important bills ever passed in America. Before that Blacks in the South had almost no rights, especially in employment. That was during the same time that anyone that spoke up for African Americans there was usually murdered by the Klu Klux Clan, and the murderers usually got away with it, because the justice system was corrupt. One of the powers in that bill was to force desegregation in states that wanted to keep their apartheid societies, and at times used the National Guard to do so. That like alot of things Barry Goldwater did ( which included advocating the use of low level nukes to clear forest in Vietnam ) did not make sense. How could he speak up for Black rights in Arizona, then be against it in the rest of the country. That would make him a hippocrite. |
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| Stilez |
| quote: | Originally posted by IbizaGuy
And my advice to you is to stay in school and learn how to spell and string together a complete sentence. Try it - you might like it!
Unlike you, I speak three languages, you stupid . Besides, I have just graduated a week ago. You must be the only ing ****** in Toronto who has got his education, and thus trying to show off. Who the are you to tell a white man all these things. Know your place, head. There will always be racism due to ing ******s like you, man, because you instigate and provoke it first.
No wonder, why we treat ******s like in Europe. You are the cancer of North America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
WTF??!! :stongue: :stongue: :haha: :haha: :stongue: :eyespop: :crazy:
you guys do know he's not AFRICAN-CANADIAN/black right?? he's actually pretty white...pale if u ask me, but u guys prob. didn't know cause u're n00bs. Plus racist and disrespectful remarks especially those of a threatning nature are not tolerated or go off well on TA.;) it's a sure way of getting banned and or account frozen! |
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| Shamen DJ's |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Also, I don't know why you think that most blacks are democrats. There are some very well-known conservative blacks, such as Bill Cosby, Thomas Sowell, Booker T. Washington, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Walter Williams, Vernon Robinson.... |
First, now what do you think Americans would think if Bush had no black people in his administration? Especially since people like David Duke, and Pat Buchanan ( now an independant because he was "too extreme" ) embarrassed the Republican Party.
Colin Powell recently got screwed by the Bush Administration. They effectively shut him up because his opinions did not agree with Dick Cheneys on Iraq. Colin Powell was one of the few people in the current administration I have any respect for.
As for the Bush administration. I live just next to Prince Georges County in Maryland which is Americas wealthiest mostly African American county with 1 million people & it voted 80% for John Kerry last election. More recently, a poll showed that only 3% of African Americans support the Bush Administration. Possible reasons why...
1) Cutting taxes for the wealthy, while cutting free school lunch programs for poor innercity children shows Bushes real priorities.
2) Poor families in the Bronx got help from Venezuelen President Chavez ( instead of Bush ) helping heat their homes this winter.
3) Despite several days warnings, Bushes too late & inadequate evacuation of New Orleans left over a thousand poor, mostly black people a death in a watery swampy hell. People were even left in nursing homes to die. FEMA couldn't even provide a convoy of busses to evacuate inner city people with no transportation. The National Guard also shot alot of people in the chaos after, most of whom were black. Whether the people that were shot were really guilty of any crimes - we do not know.
4) Stories from New Orleans about people being raped in the super dome are being distributed by racist conservative media, and are mostly unproven. What is known is that many people died inside there from lack of basic health & sanitation.
5) The federal government has done nothing to help make health care affordable to all poor families ( including African Americans ), while providing tax cuts for the rich. That shows their priorities.
6) If the Bush administration continues to ignore severe poverty within this country, which is worse than is seen in Canada, there will be riots in American cities like what we seen in France. On a recent call in show on C Span Radio most callers said "It was only a matter of time".
DigiNut: I am sure you & your views wouldn't be liked any more by African Americans in this country, than they are by IbizaGuy. |
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| Shamen DJ's |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stilez
WTF??!! :stongue: :stongue: :haha: :haha: :stongue: :eyespop: :crazy:
you guys do know he's not AFRICAN-CANADIAN/black right?? he's actually pretty white...pale if u ask me, but u guys prob. didn't know cause u're n00bs. Plus racist and disrespectful remarks especially those of a threatning nature are not tolerated or go off well on TA.;) it's a sure way of getting banned and or account frozen! |
Why does he have "Proud Afro Canadian" under his name; if he's not black.
That would make him a hippocrite just like Rush Limbaugh, and Barry Goldwater. How am I supposed to respect someone who says he's something that he's not. May'be he just listens to alot of Jay Z, pretends he's black, but knows nothing about Black History. |
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