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Tiesto Bashers (pg. 4)
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| slinkyhead |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
In my opinion the whole superstar big DJ thing is getting boring and the DJs realize that as long as they are popular they can play ty sets....because the kiddies will still think they are Gods...thats why i dont bother with them anymore...apart from Sander every DJ i dig now is a virtual nobody. |
but don't you find that the atmosphere sucks with the lesser known djs. For me clubbing is a good 80% about atmosphere, which is why i still like seeing big named djs. |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Dude why go to a Tiesto show and hear his crappy productions (post 2002) or, like you said, ASOT fillers all night and maybe some wannabe prog house tune or cheesy ass tech tune when i can go see a DJ like Demi, Stephane K, Lance Jordan and at times Sander and like every single tune from begining to end.
Not too mention i can not deal with those 45 minute break downs anymore. |
lol nachos hyped the out of sander but he didnt do it for me on NYE. Danny Howells was ACE last weekend though! |
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| RebeL9 |
I think you guys are clearly overestimating the dutch audience. I would say that they are the one which are most positive to his cheesy style.
they like big arenas and then it doesnt matter if the dj is DJ Jean or Tiesto or if he can beatmatch or not. as long as they play some cheesy anthems. |
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| MichaelBoogerd! |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
yeah i agree. but then again, his music is targeted to an audience that is different than progressive dj's. once again as a rule, i'd say the majority of trance fans, and in this case tiesto fans, are younger in terms of EDM experience. like you said, the netherland crowd isn't going to take some set...because they've been around the block and know what's up. but i think that tiesto has choosen the road he has by producing and playing the type of music that he does. not everyone can name all the songs that tiesto plays like the hardcore tracklisters here and on tiesto.com...most have a very vague idea of EDM and their appreciation of it, so of course they only want to here love comes again...that's all they know.
progressive dj's on the other hand, have always played sets which i think appeal more to people that appreciate EDM and have for some time. unless you can appreciate them people think they are boring and monotonous. i think that's even evident in the members of TA for the most part. because of that, i think it gives them that freedom you are talking about to play more tunes...because like the netherland tiesto fans, they know what's up and don't want the same thing all the time. |
Yeah thats why he can never go back... the demographic he has adjusted his playlist to will never be accepting of musical change to a deeper significantly more progressive/darker sound.
The latest idea to combat this is the 2-up weekender... where he'll play a concert one night to the teenagers... then the experienced EDM crowd (who were quite happily away from proceedings in the VIP the night before) get their own 200 capacity VIP extended hours set in some cosy location the next day.
We can all look back and imagine it differently or criticise what he has(n't) done.. but what about the future?
The recent change of address to LA to work on the new artist album is like another nail in the freaking coffin for me. I mean, i thought he'd stopped copying Oakey back in 2002! :whip:
If that comparison is to be completely drawn... its only a matter of time before Tiesto is a 10-gigs-per-annum wonder at Ibiza & the festivals with a couple of weekend's away touring....
Hopefully at that point the sets won't have gone completely to waste like Oakenfolds. |
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| Wyndham |
| quote: | Originally posted by KeSs
Right now there is a huge PVD craze because he is now the #1 DJ. And yes, I do also like PVD, I have also heard him make mistakes mixing (like Tiesto). Yet, there are 100x more Tiesto sucks threads going around than PVD sucks threads.
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lol theres a pvd craze now? u just hear about him recently? He's had a craze following for more than a couple months.
and there's more tiesto sucks threads, because tiesto actually does suck, pvd doesn't, though he has been a lot better than currently. Tiesto is not a good dj in anyway any more, yet he still believes hes the , when he hasn't been since like 2001. At least pvd uses his popularity to promote things like politics,freedom, the music, etc. unlike tiesto who just rides his popularity, continuing to promote himself further as the worlds best dj instead of paying any sort of attention to the things that got him there in the first place. I love his old stuff,sets...but he's a joke.
Tiesto is just a big marketing campaign, a brand name even. He hasn't been a real/good dj for a long long time. |
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| MichaelBoogerd! |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
they are almost like bandwagon dj's...they just play music to promote themselves or because it's popular... |
Thats hardly a newsflash :eyes: :haha:
They were bandwagon DJs in 1998-99... so what changes?
lol |
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| MichaelBoogerd! |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Dude why go to a Tiesto show and hear his crappy productions (post 2002) or, like you said, ASOT fillers all night and maybe some wannabe prog house tune or cheesy ass tech tune when i can go see a DJ like Demi, Stephane K, Lance Jordan and at times Sander and like every single tune from begining to end.
Not too mention i can not deal with those 45 minute break downs anymore. |
Hehehe I can never make the complete switch like you did. Its taken 3 extra years to get the hell off the test forum on the planet.
You know my commitments man.. and it would be a damn shame to leave them
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
Thats hardly a newsflash :eyes: :haha:
They were bandwagon DJs in 1998-99... so what changes?
lol |
Following up on this and your point about his move to LA, we saw him at Danny Howells night hanging in VIP...I wonder how many tracks he wrote down that Danny blew the place up with...lolol
Everyone was pointing and looking at him, it was weird, like seeing a car crash or something...or a train wreck? :crazy: :toothless
:p |
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| Clovis86 |
| I wanted to add that this is the best Tiesto thread I've seen on here in awhile. lol Cheers to all parties. |
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| slinkyhead |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis86
I wanted to add that this is the best Tiesto thread I've seen on here in awhile. lol Cheers to all parties. |
yeah what's happening. Are TA's getting more rational :conf: |
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| MichaelBoogerd! |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
see and the thing with those sections is he totally just playing what has been popular for the sasha's and the digweed's or the techno dj's...armin does the same thing on ASOT. he plays Eric Prydz - Aftermath or Booka Shade - Mandarin Girl...and all the ASOT kids are like "ooo cool tune"...but those tunes have already been doing the rounds for half a year in other dj's boxes...they were just popular so they decide to play them after the fact.
they've both been doing it more and more lately...i think eventually they are going to make the switch to be honest...they see how it's taken off...and i'm sure they want apart of it. it's things like that which make me really say pfffffft to armin and tiesto...they are almost like bandwagon dj's...they just play music to promote themselves or because it's popular... |
Yeah i was freaking gutted when he dropped Pryda...
What about :-
Elio Riso & Raffunk - To Be Or Not To Be
Klement Bonelli - Ethna
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Empty Streets (Seamus Haji & Emmanuel Remix)
were those heavy rotated before Tijs picked them up.
I know he found them via a few CDR's he bought out on the white isle.
In a recent poll he has listed Eric Prydz as his favourite artist from 2005... I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. |
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| MichaelBoogerd! |
| quote: | Originally posted by RebeL9
I think you guys are clearly overestimating the dutch audience. I would say that they are the one which are most positive to his cheesy style.
they like big arenas and then it doesnt matter if the dj is DJ Jean or Tiesto or if he can beatmatch or not. as long as they play some cheesy anthems. |
hmmm
Tiesto only played Sensation once.
Since then Armin has been to blame for that crock of .
The audience might be more accepting to big anthems, but they are also tired of hearing both these and the 'In Concert' themes. (At least the people i hanged out with were!)
Another problem is that these guys are so popular on home soil... they have to fill a stadium, cos quite frankly a 1000-capacity club just isnt big enough anymore.
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