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who is still a vinyl DJ? (pg. 6)
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StereoPrincess
quote:
Originally posted by alefort
Then explain


ah, don't bother asking for that because we are all too dumb and immature to understand.
Dj Macarius
Taken from the Anjunabeats Forum



"It looks as though audiophiles may have to resign themselves to the fact
that in a few years time there will be only the chance to fondly re-live the
good old days of nostalgia, rather than experience the new. Vinyl, the
medium that took over from Shellac, Bakelite and even earlier the wax
pressing, has had its final play - well, almost. The year 2009, looks set to
be the final turn in the long standing vinyl revolution.

A June 2003 press release from The Institute of Chemical Engineering,
advised that key by- products of the current petroleum refining process
would no longer be generated by 2009, due to deadlines agreed, in principle,
with the chemical industry back in 1992. These deadlines were however, only
finalised in 1999, in the face of increasing environmental concerns and
lobbying.

The IoCE went on to advise that a voluntary co-funded research and
development program to seek a green alternative, possibly a polycarbonate
based compound had been proposed in the 1999 summary. However no members of
the industry wide syndicate had been able to substantiate a sufficiently
high market demand for a replacement for the petroleum by-product, which is
the primary base for vinyl record albums.

MORE..............

Whilst concluding that the news marked "The end of an era for vinyl", a
spokesperson of music retailing giants Tower Records advised that with sales
of collective vinyl products accounted for less than a third of a percent
(0.28%) of their total music sales World-wide in the last accounting period.
"Hardest hit will be the few remaining traditionalist vinyl Disc Jockeys"
Tower Records confirmed.

Tower replied positively when asked if this early warning would mean a
silence in the thousands of DJ booths and radio stations around the world.
"For some, existing skills will need to be adapted for use with the rapidly
advancing Compact Disc DJ equipment" continued Towers spokesperson., "it
promises to be a very exciting transition as older techniques are retained
and used alongside the plethora of new features that CD technology already
offers todays forward thinking DJ's and turntablists". Towers spokesperson
added "It is unlikely that we will continue to carry vinyl into 2009. We
believe the needs of the DJ will be totally digital, in one medium or
another, prior to the cessation date.""

Radio stations and other areas of the broadcasting community are unlikely to
be affected by this early warning of environmental issues validating the
need for minor lifestyle changes either,. since almost a of the music played
in a modern broadcast scenario is primarily CD, or from Digital archives
owned under licence by the larger radio stations."


DJ TRU
m2j
^^^ if thats for real... that really freakin sucks :(

hopefully I'll have enough cash to get cdjs by 2009 :wtf:

I have seen a very sharp decline in the number of records carried by stores lately (esp. @ release). And a lot of record shops are integrating digital downloads into their sales... guess they're planning ahead.
m2j
quote:
Originally posted by electro funk
I actually just purchased a CDJ800 so i cant say that i am anymore.

Yes jon jon........I am a digital DJ now. LOL


just curious, but do you only have one CDJ800?

and if so, do you find it limiting? As in having to go back and forth between vinyls and cds for every mix.
electro funk
quote:
Originally posted by m2j
just curious, but do you only have one CDJ800?

and if so, do you find it limiting? As in having to go back and forth between vinyls and cds for every mix.


well actually i still have loads of vinyl that i still play. so right now its not really a concern but i do plan on getting another soon because i really enjoy using it a lot more than the turntables.
m2j
quote:
Originally posted by electro funk
well actually i still have loads of vinyl that i still play. so right now its not really a concern but i do plan on getting another soon because i really enjoy using it a lot more than the turntables.


cool cool.

but I'd imagine the tracks you have on CD are newer releases than the ones you have on vinyl, and that means for every new track you have, you have to mix in one of the older vinyls.

so what i meant to ask is: are situations where you really want to mix cd to cd frequent? esp. since you're purchasing far less (if not none at all) records.
Skipper
quote:
Originally posted by djeso
beatport is great 100 bucks gets me lots of music vs vinyl, I haven't bought vinyl in years :disbelief

there is always final scratch :) for the turntablists


beatport has an incredible selection, but I've had a couple of DJs tell me that when you play those downloads out on a big system, the quality is really questionable.
Kate Manus
I don't shop on those sites so I can't really comment but I remember when this came up in discussion on another board before, there was talk that you can purchase a premium quality release for an additional fee... not sure if that applies to Beatport though?

The trend with all this that I hate to see is guys like Chris Liebing using ableton recording all their mp3s at the same bpm so that they have more times to throw their hands up in the air to the crowd than actually mix anymore... I love Chris and he puts on a good show.. but I remember seeing him like this at Swirl last year and I wasn't too impressed.
Skipper
I can perhaps see that argument if you're recording mp3s at the same bpm to be able to mix more or add more effects, but for someone like Liebing, you should be able to beat match a record within seconds anyways. Is that extra time really that valuable?

re. beatport, I don't think they have premium quality downloads available separate from regular downloads...I think that's a pretty weak concept though - premium quality downloads should be standard.
Kate Manus
I think he was just being a wee bit lazy personally.
The last few times I have seen him he certainly hasn't been workin' it like in the past.

I guess this is also sort of related to this thread but I am starting to notice high profile labels being established in techno exclusively for digital releases... such as Valentino Kanzyani's latest project.... thankfully he said he will still be pressing the floor fillers from it.
One of my projects for 2006 was to try to establish my own label and from what I can tell it is a bit less complicated in terms of trying to secure a distributor but ultimately I've decided I would try to establish it as a wax label instead of exclusively digital. Now I just have to line up my first few releases.. hehe.. still going to take some lobbying there.

Dj Macarius
I think beatport offeres wav downloads as well, therefore no quality loss.
Kate Manus
^^
That's what I was getting at now that you mention it. What's the surcharge though... $1 per track?
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