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Immigrants and having rights (pg. 12)
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by candyraverz
immigrants are always cos they take about 2 or 3 generations to assimilate! |
did you ever think that may be due to there being little to no assistance offered to them. In Canada it generally takes one generation for most immigrants/refugees to become intergrated with the broader society. I imagine this is largely due to the massive amount of English/French language programs made available to them for little or no cost. |
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| Allied Nations |
| quote: | Originally posted by candyraverz
In theory international boundries should be a myth but try getting the world to live together... |
Didn't you just bitch about immigrants? Get out. |
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| stren |
| quote: | Originally posted by candyraverz
In theory international boundries should be a myth but try getting the world to live together... |
in a perfect world |
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| FallingMoon |
Lira's post FTW!
Yes people that come to the US should learn English since it's the way most of the population communicate but the simple fact is that the US does not have an official language & FLORida was founded by Hispanics.
Nfekted makes a great point, I too feel that way...but to sit there & talk about immigrants as in only HISPANIC immigrants is wrong...there are MANY other immigrants here other than Hispanic.
A lot of Europeans get taught the language early on, in almost all Spanish countries they don't so coming here at an older age & trying to learn it is a lot more difficult than coming as a child. |
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| eROs.au |
MONG!
sunsnail is BLACK! |
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| Lira |
Sucks to hear that, Slylee... I wonder what are the reasons behind their rude attitude, since you were alright with them. Living in a bilingual society must have challenges for both sides, I presume.
| quote: | Originally posted by Allied Nations
If race is a myth, shouldn't international boundaries be one too? |
Read my post: the paragraph before "Florida" ;) |
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| eROs.au |
| CBF readint this thread |
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| Muscle-Butt |
| quote: | Originally posted by eye_03
ive heard that americans will become a minority in their own country in something like 20 years.. |
this is one of the most retarded posts ever. you would make alex trebek cry.
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| stren |
| quote: | Originally posted by eROs.au
sunsnail is BLACK! |
or at least a part of him is :wtf: |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
did you ever think that may be due to there being little to no assistance offered to them. In Canada it generally takes one generation for most immigrants/refugees to become intergrated with the broader society. I imagine this is largely due to the massive amount of English/French language programs made available to them for little or no cost. |
The problem is when the immigrants come here, they dont want to learn the language.
On the other hand...
I remember when I was younger, like 8 yrs old, my grandfather, who was in his late 60's, would go to the local sinagogue to learn the english language - and I would be at their place once in a while helping him or he'd call me asking questions. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
The problem is when the immigrants come here, they dont want to learn the language.
On the other hand...
I remember when I was younger, like 8 yrs old, my grandfather, who was in his late 60's, would go to the local sinagogue to learn the english language - and I would be at their place once in a while helping him or he'd call me asking questions. |
That's a myth. For the most parts immigrants coming to industrialized nations want a better life for themselves. Generally they understand that to do that they need to intergrate with the larger society. If they have the means to do so they will normally seek to, however, if they do not have the means they will remain in their ethnic ghetto and push their children to get the education necessary to escape. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
That's a myth. For the most parts immigrants coming to industrialized nations want a better life for themselves. Generally they understand that to do that they need to intergrate with the larger society. If they have the means to do so they will normally seek to, however, if they do not have the means they will remain in their ethnic ghetto and push their children to get the education necessary to escape. |
Most of them will stay in the ghetto's, even with the means to get an education. When my parents came here (mom was 33) she went to school - why she didnt stay is still a blur to me, had something to do with my dad and his job - but the ability to go to school is there, but none of the immigrants want to do that. Also any local place of worship would be more than happy to help anyone in the community to learn the language.
Heres the problem with all of this, being that I live in NYC - things are awefully easy for immigrants because there are specific areas of NYC in which particular nationalities of the world live in (China Town, Greenpoint (polish), Bensenhurst (italian), Brighton (Russian and Mexican), East NY (african americans and hispanics)). So there is practically no need to integrate yourself into the generalized population. |
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