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Immigrants and having rights (pg. 7)
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reeedream
Me, I just got a job a little while ago. I think work is like the opposite of good. That being bad. I mean, since I got a job I also got a whole new opinion on illegal immigrants, whereas I had none before. Basically I feel that since most of my hard earned tax dollars are keeping these people alive and fed, I should be able to do whatever I want with them. Like keep an immigrant farm in my back yard with separate pens for Mexicans, Cambodians, and the ever-elusive Estonians. Then every once in a while i'd set some free, get my shotgun, hop on my ATV, and hunt them down like the money-sucking leeches they are. The amount of time for a head start they get depends on how many food stamps they trade for it. One food stamp dollar equals five seconds head start time. Yeah i'm pretty sure work has had a bad impact on me overall.
::TranceVanDyk::
i believe all the illegals should be rounded up and deported immediatly. they broke the law, and therefore should pay the price. require all employers to document every employee and send in their information. the INS agents should make surprise visits to businesses and see to it that all their employees are documented for. make special holding camps for illegals to be deported.

i say, reform the laws, fix the bureacracy, and secure the border. build a wall or something.

its not fair that they dont pay taxes, speak the language, etc.
Clovis86
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Originally posted by djarecebo
They shoudld because then youre 1.25 of a human!


extra .25 in my boxers ZING! :stongue:
jonSun
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
USA is crazy enough to not even have a nation official language and then have it's citizen complain when people don't learn a certain language. LOL.



Even if it was the official language, doensnt mean people are gonna learn it. Come on they came here ILLEGALLY. There are ways to come to this country the legal way & millions have done it, my family included. So i got no remorse for these protesters whining & waving thier own countrys flags in america. Just cause they survived the bananna boat ride here or survived crossing the desert doenst mean they get to automatically be a citizen.
Aureus
i feel like venting so...

listen. it's two-thousand-and-ing-six. yeah, i'd say maybe like 40% of immigrants who enter the country by illegitimate means actually get their alien status green cards and work for what they have (and i'm willing to bet that's a pretty generous figure). but what about the rest? they burden the already overburdened system here in the U.S. there's no need to keep letting people into our country, we're full, kthxturnaroundbye. the people who are actually CITIZENS here who don't have it so well can't even get ing help when they need it, so why should we help everyone else? yeah, i'm well-aware that my great-great-whatever-grandparents migrated here two centuries ago and that they were immigrants then. but they didn't have the problems america has in this day and age to deal with back then either. so to all you who think we should keep letting these leechers into the US to feed off my and your tax dollars when i can't even get decent ing health care, piss off. and if someone already had this rant sorry.. didn't feel like sifting through seven pages of apologist whining for the underprivileged.

/rant
jdat
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Originally posted by Aureus
i feel like venting so...

listen. it's two-thousand-and-ing-six. yeah, i'd say maybe like 40% of immigrants who enter the country by illegitimate means actually get their alien status green cards and work for what they have. but what about the rest? they burden the already overburdened system here in the U.S. there's no need to keep letting people into our country, we're full, kthxturnaroundbye. the people who are actually CITIZENS here who don't have it so well can't even get ing help when they need it, so why should we help everyone else? yeah, i'm well-aware that my great-great-whatever-grandparents migrated here two centuries ago and that they were immigrants then. but they didn't have the problems america has in this day and age to deal with back then either. so to all you who think we should keep letting these leechers into the US to feed off my and your tax dollars when i can't even get decent ing health care, piss off. and if someone already had this rant sorry.. didn't feel like sifting through seven pages of apologist whining for the underprivileged.

/rant



Keep in mind that most illegal immigrants are working jobs that legal workers don't want to have due to low salaries so don't get things mixed up.
Health care is a totally different matter and shouldn't even come into play here. If an illegal gets sick he will most certainly be in more trouble then you.


I feel like there's so much ignorance and confusion in a lot of posts in this thread.
In regards to wellfare food stamps and stuff you are supposed to have a social security number. If you're in the US illegaly you can't really have one.
Vlad
Im ok with if immigrants want to come to this country, contribute, pay taxes, and actually try to apply themselves at a real job. Instead of coming here and applying for welfare immediately, than demanding healthcare just because you are here. And on top of that, alot of the immigrants that come here purposely commit crimes so that they can go to jail because of how good convicts have it in there. And out of who's pocket does all this money come from? All of us tax payers.
Aureus
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Originally posted by jdat
Keep in mind that most illegal immigrants are working jobs that legal workers don't want to have due to low salaries so don't get things mixed up.
Health care is a totally different matter and shouldn't even come into play here. If an illegal gets sick he will most certainly be in more trouble then you.


to point A)
there are Americans that could use those jobs, no matter how low they pay. why should some border-jumpers who won't even end up paying taxes get dibs?

to point B)
when an illegal immigrant goes to a free-clinic, that drives up costs for the rest of us who actually pay taxes, because it's not coming out of their salary (usually under-the-table). so it's costing me. and i have a problem with that.
XoxidE
This is basically want we/they want, they just want to work here and live a better life than they do in mexico, if you ever been to mexico where ive gone, you would understand why.
Aureus
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Originally posted by XoxidE
This is basically want we/they want, they just want to work here and live a better life than they do in mexico, if you ever been to mexico where ive gone, you would understand why.


tell 'em to get their in act together and make *their* country livable then.


no one is going to change my opinion that we don't need any more people in this ing country :whip: :whip:

jdat
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Originally posted by Aureus
to point A)
there are Americans that could use those jobs, no matter how low they pay. why should some border-jumpers who won't even end up paying taxes get dibs?

to point B)
when an illegal immigrant goes to a free-clinic, that drives up costs for the rest of us who actually pay taxes, because it's not coming out of their salary (usually under-the-table). so it's costing me. and i have a problem with that.


point A) .... you wanna work for 2 bucks an hour picking grapes in vineyards in California?????
Aureus
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Originally posted by XoxidE
This is basically want we/they want, they just want to work here and live a better life than they do in mexico, if you ever been to mexico where ive gone, you would understand why.


tell 'em to get their in act together and make *their* country livable then. why are we, as americans, responsible for making the rest of the world a better place to live. is everyone else really that uninspired?


no one is going to change my opinion that we don't need any more people in this ing country :whip: :whip:
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