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Immigrants and having rights (pg. 5)
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| FallingMoon |
| wooooooooow I love how the whole "immigrant" thing is only related to Cuba for you...because IMMIGRANTS are also Haitian, South American, Mexican ETC (EVEN European) & there are lots of those here. :rolleyes: |
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| Estella |
| Yeah, they don't deserve the basic humane rights of life because they don't possess a few important numbers in our government scroll books. |
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| AndreaCKY772 |
| i don't mind legal immigration but illegal immigration i don't agree with. |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Estella
Yeah, they don't deserve the basic humane rights of life because they don't possess a few important numbers in our government scroll books. |
basic humane rights? lol this is about wanting citizenship and being able to work and vote in america.
oh and thanks for reminding me lis! i forgot about those damn haitians too...same :p |
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| Estella |
| With work comes money. And with money comes our basic humane right to the pursuit of happiness. Or maybe it's love. I can't remember. |
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| stace |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
basic humane rights? lol this is about wanting citizenship and being able to work and vote in america.
oh and thanks for reminding me lis! i forgot about those damn haitians too...same :p |
Slylee.....what are your views on legal/legit immigrants into the states then? Forgive me if you have posted this already. |
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| DjConfessions |
i think if the US blocks off all immigrants, the mexicans drug smugglers will put some funding into terrorism and extremism agains the American Empire.
We need more Natalie Halloway coverage |
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| montana |
| jamie, about the current french riots, in most european countries an employee have protection so they can't get fired for no reason (like in america). now they are trying to pass this law through to make it so that if your under 26 you can get fired for no reason. |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by stace
Slylee.....what are your views on legal/legit immigrants into the states then? Forgive me if you have posted this already. |
i thought i did? it's mostly the language barrier that bothers me...i think i said something about as long as they learn the language and get a job and pay their taxes, i don't give a . but i find it hard to respect anyone who has been living and working here for 15+ years and still doesn't speak any english (and doesn't care to) because they didn't have to learn it because they lived in hiahleah the whole time. hiahleah is a part of miami where you pretty much need to know spanish to get around anywhere...i mean, even the billboard signs for advertisments are in spanish:wtf:
but i also admitted to thinking that i probably wouldn't be as frustrated if i was fluent in spanish. |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | | Unless you're from the French-Canadian part, then you just don't do anything |
thats because we dont want to deal with you fackin hanglish...... sti
the only thing i hate tho is when im at work and i cant understand people i work wiht becauew their engish is soooo bad. i speak two languages fluently (french and english) and i can flip back and forth mid scentance if i want to, but i dont have time to learn to speak hindi, arabic, canotnese. and for some reason half the engineers i work with at ford, cant speak in english to save themselves... it really slows down my productivity because for me to comunicate with them takes 3 hours on bable fish to say good morning.... |
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| stace |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
i thought i did? it's mostly the language barrier that bothers me...i think i said something about as long as they learn the language and get a job and pay their taxes, i don't give a . but i find it hard to respect anyone who has been living and working here for 15+ years and still doesn't speak any english (and doesn't care to) because they didn't have to learn it because they lived in hiahleah the whole time. hiahleah is a part of miami where you pretty much need to know spanish to get around anywhere...i mean, even the billboard signs for advertisments are in spanish:wtf:
but i also admitted to thinking that i probably wouldn't be as frustrated if i was fluent in spanish. |
Im just tired and lazy and didn't read the thread properly as my eyes cant hack it!
That's cool, I get your view there. :)
As for those damn South Africans that immigrate to London with their smelly Bilton dried meat nonsense.........;) only messing G  |
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| jdat |
| quote: | Originally posted by NebulousQ
A difference is that the "immigrants" here are actually trying or wanting to become citizens of the state, while in France and other European countries it is very hard to become a citizen. Most "immigrants' in European countries are not citizens nor try to be, rather they come in on a working visa or a foriegn workers program.
Isn't this part of what the riots in France were about? Poor foriegn workers feeling like they are getting the very short of end of the stick, partly because they weren't citizens?
Compared to most of the world becoming a citizen in the USA is easy. |
Most of the people who were rioting ang burning stuff last year were of french nationality and in many cases of foreign descent ( north africa and such ). They were pissed off because some cops were chasing some thiefs or something along these lines and one of the guys died electrocuted to death when he went inside an electrical transformer. There were also issues because they felt as if they weren't accepted by the rest of society despite the fact they were french.
And the process in the Us is far from being easy nowdays. First the green card lottery, then the visa issues etc. It is far from being easy. It certainly is easier to some extent in Europe but it's totally different and it's like comparing apples and oranges. Administration can also be a pain in the arse in Europe ( more so then in the US ).
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
sowwy! the nature of the riots sounded similar.
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but still...what's going on with those happening now? |
Riots, strikes and things of such nature are rather common occurence in France.
Right now a lot of unions are on strike to block this law from passing that would basically allow employement at will for a period of 2 years for people under 26 years old. The people who have been breaking things should NOT be associated with the rest of the strikers. They are there with the intent of breaking things and could careless about this law.
There are have been numerous cases were the people on strike were being robbed of their wallets cell phones bags etc by these thugs who come just with the intent of destroying stuff.
| quote: | Originally posted by stace
Not if you're from the UK it isn't!
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I have several friends who have gone through many difficult situations trying to live and work in the US and they were originally from the UK. It is indeed true that somehow things are more complicated for them.
| quote: | Originally posted by montana
jamie, about the current french riots, in most european countries an employee have protection so they can't get fired for no reason (like in america). now they are trying to pass this law through to make it so that if your under 26 you can get fired for no reason. |
Employement at will laws are common in most states in the US. One of the countries in the world were it's the easiest to fire someone. |
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