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Avalon issues? (pg. 8)
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| DragonReborn |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjWoody
You're calling him an irresponsible drug user? How do you think it makes you look everytime you come and post on a public message board about all the drugs that you do? Now that's irresponsible. You have no idea who reads this boards. Being a constant drug user is not something to be proud of, it's something to be ashamed of. Honestly, I don't think you should come in TA and bragg about your drug use, keep it to your self. There's no such thing as a responsible drug user. |
Wow. A voice of reason, something that I usually find lacking here...
DjWoody + 1 |
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| Electrophile |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjWoody
You're calling him an irresponsible drug user? How do you think it makes you look everytime you come and post on a public message board about all the drugs that you do? Now that's irresponsible. You have no idea who reads this boards. Being a constant drug user is not something to be proud of, it's something to be ashamed of. Honestly, I don't think you should come in TA and bragg about your drug use, keep it to your self. There's no such thing as a responsible drug user. |
Woody es un policia judicial? :conf: |
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| mar46017 |
I love trance music, but because of all of the above on the last 7 pages I don't only go to Avalon/Spundae/Vanguard. I am forced to party at Cabana/Day After/Garden of Eden/Mood/Privelege/Highlands to see a nice crowd.
I go to Avalon/Spundae on special occasions only. Tiesto/Armin Van Buuren/Ferry Corsten and even an occasional After Hour Power. Like you guys said, the place is not classy, it's shady, it's dirty.
Face it...there are exceptions but for someone to party until 7AM, the person has to be on something. Since LA has a 2AM to 6AM no alcohol sales policy that something is usually not alcohol.
Why doesn't Avalon pat people down? Because if they did that the line would be backed up even more and they would probably find too much stuff on people and that makes them look bad. Even when they do find stuff on people, they report it in their own price of paper on a clipboard, they don't want or need police on their back. |
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| donnybrasco |
I wish they would go back to doing a weapons search at the very least. All those scumbags with attitude makes me nervous. You could be getting in a fight with a guy who is amped on something AND has a gun or knife, etc...you never know.
It's particualrly odd that they don't do a search there, given that there was a shooting there at least once that I recall about 5 years ago, when it was "The Palace". |
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| dj_bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjWoody
You're calling him an irresponsible drug user? How do you think it makes you look everytime you come and post on a public message board about all the drugs that you do? Now that's irresponsible. You have no idea who reads this boards. Being a constant drug user is not something to be proud of, it's something to be ashamed of. Honestly, I don't think you should come in TA and bragg about your drug use, keep it to your self. There's no such thing as a responsible drug user. |
First off, i'm not 'bragging' about my drug use. I was simply stating that if one was going to use drugs, knowing their illegal, they should be a little more responsible about how/when they do them. Lighting up a joint, swallowing a pill, doing a bump, or whatever in the middle of the dancefloor is irresponsible. Then to complain about security because they busted you and kicked you out is just silly.
Responsible drug user, how about someone that doesn't do it in a place where he can get busted/kicked out of a club? How about someone that can hold down a regular job, go to school, be on their way to starting a career, and have friends that care and love them? How about someone that can live their life just fine while still doing 'all those drugs', sounds pretty responsible to me.
Are drugs 'good'? Probably not, are they 'bad'? I don't think so. Is there a time and a place? Of course. For some their time and place is any day anywhere just to get high. That's irresponsible. For other's it's the weekend, maybe every other weekend, maybe every month, maybe once a year. Is that irresponsible? Does it interfere with their life? Of course not.
Bill Hicks said it best, "I took drugs and I had a real good time. Never murdered anyone, never raped anyone, never robbed anyone - didn't lose mmmmm ONE ing job! Laughed my ass off, and went about my day."
So stop it. |
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| Electrophile |
| quote: | Originally posted by donnybrasco
I wish they would go back to doing a weapons search at the very least. All those scumbags with attitude makes me nervous. You could be getting in a fight with a guy who is amped on something AND has a gun or knife, etc...you never know.
It's particualrly odd that they don't do a search there, given that there was a shooting there at least once that I recall about 5 years ago, when it was "The Palace". |
Serious, they should at least give a quick feel for any type of concealed heavy object. What if that big dude that punk'ed Clovis would have had a weapon or something? |
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| dj_bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Electrophile
Serious, they should at least give a quick feel for any type of concealed heavy object. What if that big dude that punk'ed Clovis would have had a weapon or something? |
The state that guy was in, he probably wouldn't have been able to use it :haha: |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjWoody
There's no such thing as a responsible drug user. |
So you are, by this statement, admitting to having used drugs in an irresponsible manner.
Because don't even try to tell me you've never done any drugs...pretty much everyone has...
Bas is completely right in his last post. Do you consider alcohol and cigarettes drugs? Caffeine? Because I do. And in that case we are all "irresponsible" by your logic. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_bas
First off, i'm not 'bragging' about my drug use. I was simply stating that if one was going to use drugs, knowing their illegal, they should be a little more responsible about how/when they do them. Lighting up a joint, swallowing a pill, doing a bump, or whatever in the middle of the dancefloor is irresponsible. Then to complain about security because they busted you and kicked you out is just silly.
Responsible drug user, how about someone that doesn't do it in a place where he can get busted/kicked out of a club? How about someone that can hold down a regular job, go to school, be on their way to starting a career, and have friends that care and love them? How about someone that can live their life just fine while still doing 'all those drugs', sounds pretty responsible to me.
Are drugs 'good'? Probably not, are they 'bad'? I don't think so. Is there a time and a place? Of course. For some their time and place is any day anywhere just to get high. That's irresponsible. For other's it's the weekend, maybe every other weekend, maybe every month, maybe once a year. Is that irresponsible? Does it interfere with their life? Of course not.
Bill Hicks said it best, "I took drugs and I had a real good time. Never murdered anyone, never raped anyone, never robbed anyone - didn't lose mmmmm ONE ing job! Laughed my ass off, and went about my day."
So stop it. |
as long as drugs dont rule your life and you dont need them to have fun then who cares! |
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| Electrophile |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis86
So you are, by this statement, admitting to having used drugs in an irresponsible manner.
Because don't even try to tell me you've never done any drugs...pretty much everyone has...
Bas is completely right in his last post. Do you consider alcohol and cigarettes drugs? Caffeine? Because I do. And in that case we are all "irresponsible" by your logic. |
I would have to agree with Bas and Clovis on this.... I don't mind a guy that smokes weed and just stands in the same spot nodding his head all night. What is wrong with that? He isn't bothering anyone, he isn't causing a scene or an inconvenience. I also agree that ethanol (alcohol), and 7-methyltheophylline (caffeine) are drugs. 7-methyltheophylline is a xanthine stimulant of the methylxanthine family which has an effect predominately on the central nervous system. That sounds like a drug to me.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Edit: Just because the effects of caffeine are not as pronounced as methamphetamine or some of the other Schedule I substances does not mean it is not a drug. |
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| lex400sc |
god i hate preachy-ass morel orels. no one here needs another dad telling them what to do, and saying something dumb like no such thing as responsible drug use is just flat out ignorance. what makes a drug a drug to you? legality? LOL! why is e illegal? because some crooked doctor presented a study to congress based on meth mislabelled as e, and now it's illegal before ANYONE knows its true effects? why is weed illegal? it's a naturally occurring plant that is healthier than cigarettes, alcohol and mcdonalds. so is eating mcdonalds with whiskey and a pack of cigarettes somehow responsible while smoking a bowl is omgomgomgSIIIINFUL!? lol come on now... bottom line is there is such a thing as responsible drug use: it's called knowing everything about the drug before you take it, using it safely and in moderation (not overdoing it or developing a habit/addiction). maybe you aren't able to responsibly party on drugs, most people out there aren't, but some others are so don't knock them for it.
also lol at people thinking the DEA has the time or care to sift through a bunch of discussion forums to keep a tally on how many drug posts there are for each club :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: |
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| DjWoody |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_bas
First off, i'm not 'bragging' about my drug use. I was simply stating that if one was going to use drugs, knowing their illegal, they should be a little more responsible about how/when they do them.QUOTE]
I wasnt just referring to right now. There's been several times where you have come and posted about how high you were at the moment.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dj_bas
Responsible drug user, how about someone that doesn't do it in a place where he can get busted/kicked out of a club? How about someone that can hold down a regular job, go to school, be on their way to starting a career, and have friends that care and love them? How about someone that can live their life just fine while still doing 'all those drugs', sounds pretty responsible to me. |
Just because you do it in a place that you don't get cought doesn't make you responsible drug user. I didn't mean responsible as being able to take care of your responsibilites such as going to school, working, etc. I ment it in a way that drugs are an irresponsible thing to do, and by doing them you are no longer being responsible to your self when it comes to drugs. If you need to be high to enjoy this music, then you are obviously in it for the wrong reason. You shouldn't need drugs to enjoy anything. To me, when someone uses drugs, they are filling a void in their life.
I'm glad you have your life straight, and you're trying to improve your self, but doing drugs is not the way to go. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. You use them as a way to escape reality for a few hours and to alter your state of being. I just hope you don't OD one of these days, cuz I would hate to lose a friend to drugs.
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_bas
Are drugs 'good'? Probably not, are they 'bad'? I don't think so. Is there a time and a place? Of course. For some their time and place is any day anywhere just to get high. That's irresponsible. For other's it's the weekend, maybe every other weekend, maybe every month, maybe once a year. Is that irresponsible? Does it interfere with their life? Of course not.
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Drugs are illegal for a reason. If they were a good thing, they would be legal.
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis86
So you are, by this statement, admitting to having used drugs in an irresponsible manner.
So you are, by this statement, admitting to having used drugs in an irresponsible manner.
Because don't even try to tell me you've never done any drugs...pretty much everyone has...
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OMG Clovis, don't try to twist this. My point was that he was not being responsible by coming on to a public message board and brag about his drug use. But if you want me to tell you how many times I have done any drugs, I will... Let me just tell you that I can count the amount of times I have dropped and smoked weed with one hand!!!!! I've been in this scene since 1992, and not a single time did I have to drop or do anything to enjoy the party. I have tried weed and e, and it wasn't my thing. I don't need them.
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis86
Bas is completely right in his last post. Do you consider alcohol and cigarettes drugs? Caffeine? Because I do. And in that case we are all "irresponsible" by your logic. |
I can't stand cigarettes... I really don't like straight coffe, but Coffeine don't get you all stupid like your average drugs. Alcohol, yes, I consider it dangerous. Do I drink responsibly? Most of the time, but there's been times when I haven't. Actually, I recently had a bad experience that I don't even wanna see alcohol for a loooooooonggggg time. Was I irresponsible in that experience? You bet... Will I drink again? Probably... But this experience was so life altering that I seriously am considering not drinking anymore. |
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