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terrorists arrested in TO (pg. 18)
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Hmmm good quote from Mr. Zed and Richard :) |
The Zeddicus Zul Zorander himself! |
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| zoogla |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
The reason I didn't know that this happened is because I have shut myself off from the media. |
That's a good call, Theresa, but one of the benefits of living in North America is the freedom of the press. No, I'm not talking about mainstream TV, but you'll find unique perspectives on every issue if you scrape the surface and do a little more research just to get the facts, not the value judgements.
The media, unfortunately, is filled with value judgements and instructions on "what to do" which is what causes all the fear and hysteria.
You know what--keep doing what you're doing and let me be your guide to the news! :D
In related news, Fahad is the hottest man on the planet... |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by fayraree
That's a good call, Theresa, but one of the benefits of living in North America is the freedom of the press. No, I'm not talking about mainstream TV, but you'll find unique perspectives on every issue if you scrape the surface and do a little more research just to get the facts, not the value judgements.
The media, unfortunately, is filled with value judgements and instructions on "what to do" which is what causes all the fear and hysteria.
You know what--keep doing what you're doing and let me be your guide to the news! :D
In related news, Fahad is the hottest man on the planet... |
Bahaha! You're awesome :D
Yea, a lot of people think I am really weird that I have no idea what is going on. Things like celebrities getting married or other like that, I have ZERO knowledge on. If you were to show me a picture of just about anyone recently famous, I likly wouldn't be able to identify them.
When it comes to politics and world events, although it may seem to be a bad thing, I don't have much knowledge in that subject either. When London was bombed, I didn't know for a couple of months.
I like it this way though. I have found that since I have stopped watching mainstream television (I do download select television shows without commercials,) and tuning myself into the awful people do, I have been MUCH MUCH happier. Not to mention that as a consumer, I am buying WAY less that I don't really want. I haven't been sucked into the i-pod craze, and "fads" don't catch on with me.
Meh. Just a lifestyle choice I made 3 years ago that I have never regretted. |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
When it comes to politics and world events, although it may seem to be a bad thing, I don't have much knowledge in that subject either. When London was bombed, I didn't know for a couple of months.
I like it this way though. I have found that since I have stopped watching mainstream television (I do download select television shows without commercials,) and tuning myself into the awful people do, I have been MUCH MUCH happier. Not to mention that as a consumer, I am buying WAY less that I don't really want. I haven't been sucked into the i-pod craze, and "fads" don't catch on with me.
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it's one thing to not want to watch the news but you really should try to get some information about the world around you in some way. it may get you in trouble if you don't.
why not read the google news page once a day? just check out the headlines? |
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| Killah Monkey |
I have been living in a bubble as I liked to call it for about a year... only recently to have been popped.
Now, I do think that reading information in news reports (like Stereoprincess mentioned) or catching up on local and global news by listening to the radio every once in a while is good to grasp reality and be aware of our surroundings.
680 news is good or I watch citypulse in the morning to wake up... other than that... only seinfeld and sex in the city... ha ha.
I guess my bubble has officially been burst... I definately don't need the visuals of heart ache and torture around the world, but we can't live in a bubble forever. |
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| shanny |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
it's one thing to not want to watch the news but you really should try to get some information about the world around you in some way. it may get you in trouble if you don't.
why not read the google news page once a day? just check out the headlines? |
You can actually subscribe to the bbc news service and they will email you newsheadlines as they get them throughout the day.
Good way to keep up to date on current events. |
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| simms327 |
here are a friends of mine comments on the whole thing
i agree with them
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why the "terrorists" are a joke:
(1) they're kids
(2) they grew up here - i think it's hard to get the terrorist mentality if you grew up as a 2nd gen surrounded by comfort. Even the immigrant work ethic is hard to pass on
(3) they got caught by the canadian intelligence agency which is a joke
(4) it's canada... who bombs canada? people cross the border from here to bomb the US
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| zokissima |
| quote: | Originally posted by fayraree
I don't see how maintaining faith and/or the culture from your country of origin contradicts the defense and safety of our citizens. Don't confuse the people who don't care about the safety of others with those who want to maintain faith and culture.
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All I can say to that is that your own views of Islam do not reflect the views of many other Muslims with whom I have spoken. And not to single you out, since this does not actually pertain in any way to Muslims any more than it does to other ethnic and religious groups. Many people here vehemently hold on to ideals and practices indigenous to the places of their origin, and through my conversations with such, I've seen much more contempt for this country than actual love of being here. Many come here to exploit what is given freely, and freely give nothing back. Religion and a way of living are usually so strongly interconnected, and unfortunately, its been my experience that those maintaining their faith and culture the strongest are those with least care about others.
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So what happens to churches, synagogues, and mosques? What's wrong with fasting during the month of Ramadan while you're at work or having a place of worship at work? How is that "imposing beliefs on others"? I think you would have to be pretty misguided, confused, or weak of mind to allow other people's actions to impose on you. |
Places built for communities to congregate, and worship together are a great addition to this country. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. We do abide by cerain principals of political correctness, and I think these guidelines should be followed by all in a professional environment. Again, I don't wish to sound like I'm judging, but the two places that I've worked that allowed this, and the few stories I've heard of individuals whose workplaces allowed this, created tension and alienation between employees. CLearly those employees who share a common religion, and whom will pray together five times a day will have a stronger connection to each other than to those around them. Now, there is nothing inherently wrong with this. However, taking your own words, the world is full to the brim of individuals that are pretty misguided, confused, and weak of mind. It is the interaction of ALL of these individuals, regardless from whence they are from, or from which religion they practice, that ultimately creates tension. Believe what you will, but I think that in any corporate environment, this kind of behaiviour is easy to pick up on, and it is this that becomes imposing to me. Even when approached with an open heart and full tolerance, more often I've been refused by these individuals, with an air of indifference, than not.
You strike me as an individual that is not of that credo, one who has embraced the union of a strong cultural background and integrated it into a positive way to live you life here. I've tried to do the same. So please don't retort with "that is not a true Muslim/Christian/Whatever". The world is NOT full of secular human beings, it is in fact full of those wishing to cut their own piece of the pie, and stick to what they know. Its just human nature. |
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| Abercrombie |
Hey... guess who showed up in court to support the arrested?
Zaynab Khadr... yup, you guessed it, the sister in Canada's self-confessed al-Qaeda family.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...y/National/home
They seem to like to stick together, don't they? |
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| simms327 |
and the answer to that is more troops in afghanistan, and then more terrorists in canada, etc etc...
slippery slope, here we come!!! |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by simms327
here are a friends of mine comments on the whole thing
i agree with them
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why the "terrorists" are a joke:
(1) they're kids
(2) they grew up here - i think it's hard to get the terrorist mentality if you grew up as a 2nd gen surrounded by comfort. Even the immigrant work ethic is hard to pass on
(3) they got caught by the canadian intelligence agency which is a joke
(4) it's canada... who bombs canada? people cross the border from here to bomb the US
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While we may think of them as a joke (ala Jihad-lite) they are certainly not.
Jihad-lite or not, terrorists are terrorists are terrorists.
It doesn't matter how old they are, what ethnic background they are, what religion they are or from what country.
A bombing going off here in Canada (or anywhere else for that matter) is indiscriminate of any of it's victims' backgrounds, religion or creed.
We are being lulled by the media that they're 'just one of us' and we're falling for it.
Regardless if their values are misplaced, lets not give them excuses where none lie...:mad: |
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