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Donnie Darko (pg. 6)
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| pvdAngel |
| Vanilla sky, Run Lola Run, The Ring, ...... except I actually like Donnie Darko :p |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by pvdAngel
Vanilla sky, Run Lola Run, The Ring, ...... except I actually like Donnie Darko :p |
Vanilla Sky was brilliant. I loved that movie.
Run Lola Run I have never seen, and The Ring, well... I thought that was garbage, but I have difficulty appreciating any "horror" film, so my opinion on that is biased. |
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| pvdAngel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Vanilla Sky was brilliant. I loved that movie.
Run Lola Run I have never seen, and The Ring, well... I thought that was garbage, but I have difficulty appreciating any "horror" film, so my opinion on that is biased. |
Yeah, Vanilla Sky was awesome. :D I'm not much into horror myself but I thought it beat the tongue and cheek blood and gore in the majority of them that get made.
Run Lola Run is more of a 'what if' film. It's quite clever but I'll let you be the judge if you get to see it :) |
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| Estella |
I heart Huckabees
Yes
Clockwork Orange
City of Lost Children
Gummo
Un chien andalou (Dali)
Maya Deren films |
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| Estella |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
It has nothing to do with angst on any level.
It is about parallel universes, time travel, string theory. Nothing of it has anything to do with some emo kid... it is much deeper than that. |
I didn't realize that at all & I'm not doubting you. From what I got of the film was an angsty teen with unhealthy family relations, talking to his brother and living the typical passive-aggressive, scapegoat, misunderstood life. And then.. that rabbit? or was it a fox? hound? I don't even know, that's when I flipped the switch. I'm curious as to why not any other fans of Darko touched on the string theory, time travel, etc. points of the film? I've never heard of those elements in all its praise. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Estella
I heart Huckabees
Yes
Clockwork Orange
City of Lost Children
Gummo
Un chien andalou (Dali)
Maya Deren films |
Unfortunately, Clockwork Orange is the only one out of those that I have seen. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
oooh, goodie! cretin alert!
thats the wrong answer, but thankyou for playing! the whole f-n movie is based around parallel universes & time travel.
wrong again. parallel universes (in this context) are finite, and cannot exist forever. thus, if donnie had not died at the end the parallel universe he wasnt meant to be a part of would have ceased to exist; thus the end of the world.
eh? the movie is in perfect chronological order except for the end.
matter of perspective. i thought donnie's character was cool & very funny. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
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thanks theresa. seriously, its ing difficult sometimes :rolleyes:
i love when we cut to the chase people start explaining how they didnt even watch the ing movie all the way through.
and as for this
| quote: | Originally posted by Estella
What a bull movie. You independent/avant garde elitists can add another to your list that ppl such as I "just don't understand" |
someone trying to sound intelligent about a film they obviously know nothing about, and didnt even finish. biggest cretin thus far. |
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| Theresa |
"Donnie Darko follows a boy of superior intelligence whose emotional problems propel him on a very strange trajectory through a tangent universe. "
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"A jet engine from the future crashes into Donnie's house and triggers a parallel world, which will end in 28 days. Frank is sent to warn Donnie of the end of the world, and help guide him into a position where he will send the engine back through time, closing the parallel time frame, and saving the world. Frank is basically a premonition from the future, as Donnie kills Frank at the end of the film. Donnie is manipulated into situations which will eventually leave him no choice but to send the engine back through time. He meets Gretchen, which proves to him that he doesn't have to die alone (one of his fears), and makes him less scared of death. He burns down Cunnighams house, which leads events to making his mother go on the trip with his sister, thereby setting up the plane in the correct position to deposit its engine into the black hole. His shrink also admits that Donnies medication are placebos, indicating he's not as mad as he thinks (this is on the DVD as a deleted scene). As the climax begins to unfold, Donnie unwittingly gets Gretchen killed, and realises that his mother and family will also die if he doesn't close up the black hole. In closing the black hole, Donnie sacrifices himself, saves Gretchen from being killed, and because he doesn't burn down Cunninghams house, saves his mother from being on the plane (as the other mother could take the kids on the trip instead). He also doesn't kill Frank. In closing the black hole, everybody then wakes up on what would be back on the 1st of October (the start of the movie) and to the news that Donnie has died from a jet engine landing on him."
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"On October 2nd, 1988, an artifact from out of nowhere landed in what Sparrow calls the "Primary Universe"--life as we know it. The origin of this artifact, the jet engine, is a "Tangent Universe", created when the jet engine blew through the wormhole and into a day that had already happened, October 2nd. The artifact marks the arrival of the Tangent Universe. If you've been observant you'd realize that this introduces paradox--the Tangent Universe from which the jet engine came did not exist until the jet engine exited its domain via the wormhole, hmm. These paradoxes are inevitable when dealing with time travel. They don't fully discount the possibility of time travel, they just mystify it beyond any sort of simple comprehension. I find that it's easier to visualize the two universes if you imagine the Tangent Universe actually "happening first". After 28 days of a turbulent existence, the Tangent is erased when the story jumps back to October 2nd in the stable Primary Universe (of course, this is just a model for visualization, these universes existed concurrently).
The instability of the the Tangent Universe meant it would collapse within weeks, destroying all existence with it (as Sparrow explains). Ultimately, Donnie Darko closed the wormhole by ensuring the artifact's passage through it, back to the Primary Universe (which would seem to be the "second" time it happened, but again, time travel presents paradoxes). In doing so, the jet engine was sent back hurdling toward the Darkos' house, except this time Donnie knew it was coming. Donnie just smiled, because he knew that he had restored the world to its proper state, and in doing so, saved Gretchen, his mother, and his sister (an airplaine missing an engine doesn't stay in the air too long). Donnie was only able to find the courage to accept death because he knew he wasn't dying alone. By his brief but profound relationship with Gretchen, Donnie overcomes his fear of dying alone. Recall the dichotomy of fear/love theme (complemented by the Primary/Tangent dichotomy) that was r einforced by the role of self-help guru, Jim Cunningham, throughout the film. Donnie fights this battle and ultimately overcomes his fear by finding love in Gretchen. In the end, Donnie not only saved those closed to him, but the world and all of existence. It appears that in some way he understood all of this."
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| bananas |
| +1 on the clockwork orange |
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| Estella |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
thanks theresa. seriously, its ing difficult sometimes :rolleyes:
i love when we cut to the chase people start explaining how they didnt even watch the ing movie all the way through.
and as for this
someone trying to sound intelligent about a film they obviously know nothing about, and didnt even finish. biggest cretin thus far. |
Jesus lol. Okay, you GOT me! I laughed a bit if it makes you feel better, in regard to the hound? fox? rabbit? You make it sound as if it was in my capacity to actually finish the film and relish some sort of message. I will try again. |
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| Theresa |
| How people can turn a movie about tangent universes, string theory, wormholes, and time travel into an "emo teenage angst, what-if" film is beyond me. |
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