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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | US Weapon Plans Threaten Missile Proliferation
Moscow (AFP) Jun 09, 2006
US plans to develop low-yield nuclear weapons and to use ballistic missiles for carrying conventional warheads are threatening the world's nuclear non-proliferation regime, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov charged Wednesday.
"American plans for deploying low-power nuclear weapons (and) plans to equip ballistic missiles on Trident submarines and inter-continental missiles in general with conventional warheads raise concern," Lavrov told the lower house of parliament, the State Duma.
The Pentagon wants a new generation of weapons to use in what it calls the "war on terror." |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Why is it you Dems ALWAYS run from a topic at hand and post things that arent on the subject. How he got weapons over 20 years ago is irrelvant to today. Thats like someone blaming for you killing someone cus i bought u a gun 20 years ago for your birthday. Its not my fault..its yours.
Do you understand that back then Iraq was not our concern? Its similar to having a so-so friend in grade school but then in college you guys hate each other. |
It wasn't off-topic. Why is it when someone makes a point, you always say it's off-topic? You're a bit too narrow-minded in your interpretation of the point made. Maybe the reason we thought he had weapons was because we gave them to him in the first place.
It's like if the government suddenly bans all guns after making handgun owners register their weapons. They know which people to go after first. That doesn't necessarily mean that they still have it, though. Maybe they destroyed it because it got rusty and didn't work anymore. Maybe they gave it to a friend. Maybe a shell got jammed while using it and the barrel blew up. Who knows, but the guy doesn't have it now, even after we've searched his house repeatedly. |
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| umes23 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
and we felt that Saddam having chemical or biological weapons was a threat of terror. He had been known to use them in the past against the Kurds and Iranians. He refused to unarm and follow UN regulations for years so after 9.11 Bush gave him the choice of either allowing the UN to do their job or face "shock and awe". Then we found him in a hole like a coward. |
i know i promised myself i wouldn't waste more time on this crap...
but what is so hard to believe is how the hell you are so brainwashed that you're repeating fictional information that everybody knows is a load of and completely irrelevant, long after the idiots that chose to believe it even have realized it has no truth in it. it's like your brain was replaced by a george w. ing program and you're not physically able to say anything else! WHAT chemical weapons? WHAT biological weapons? saddam hussein's ?
this stupid coversation. goodbye you brainwashed freak. |
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| Blake |
Eh, every civilization has to have a warrior class. It just so happens that we're it LOL.
'War on Terror' ?? Come on, honestly. It was just an excuse for us to enter a war that we could fight indefinately. A 'war on terror' intrinsically is a war that will last forever because ANYONE could be a terrorist and anyone can become a terrorist at any point.
The supposed 'War on Terror' will end whenever the Government has met whatever objective it means to reach in all of this. Then they'll go back to distracting everyone with new claims of the Gorilla Pox and Dolphin Flu epidemics. Before you know it it'll be, "Osama who??"
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On another note anyone fly within the country lately? Anyone notice that without saying anything, they've been slowly bringing down air port security and all the tight measures that they had in place. They don't have enough money to propogate that kind of hysteria anymore.:rolleyes: |
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| Konijn |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Because we started a war on terrorism....and |
lol - fighting "terror" is as effective as a campaign against "fear" or "sadness."
| quote: | | He refused to unarm and follow UN regulations for years so after 9.11 Bush gave him the choice of either allowing the UN to do their job or face "shock and awe". Then we found him in a hole like a coward. |
lol again. well, apparently he did disarm 'cause we haven't found jack. u.n inspectors said as much at least a dozen times. everyone from blix on down knew, including the authors of the downing street memo.
bush and his neocon goons, who would sell out their grandmothers to avoid the personal costs of war, had been planning saddam's removal since the first gulf war ended. the elder bush could've pursued saddam in '91 but chose not to, because he knew that having a petty secular dictator in the area was far preferable to the other alternatives: (a) having radical mullahs running the place; (b) having an unknown dictator take charge; (c) civil war; (d) having real democracy, free of american influence take root -- the scariest option of all.
also, it's laughable that the u.s. gives a damn about any u.n. regulations as it has taken massive s on them daily since 1948. |
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| Blake |
| quote: | Originally posted by Konijn
lol - fighting "terror" is as effective as a campaign against "fear" or "sadness." |
Exactly. The war will end whenever we want it to end, and there will be no winner because terrorism isn't going anywhere.
You can't fight terrorism with terror. It can only be done by making changes in society (or societies) so that it no longer produces terrorists. If the foundations of things don't change then there will always be people who are ignorant, angry, and mentally ill enough to blow themselves (and others) up. |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by umes23
i know i promised myself i wouldn't waste more time on this crap...
but what is so hard to believe is how the hell you are so brainwashed that you're repeating fictional information that everybody knows is a load of and completely irrelevant, long after the idiots that chose to believe it even have realized it has no truth in it. it's like your brain was replaced by a george w. ing program and you're not physically able to say anything else! WHAT chemical weapons? WHAT biological weapons? saddam hussein's ?
this stupid coversation. goodbye you brainwashed freak. |
Wait wait wait...on one hand you guys say we GAVE him weapons and on the other you say he never had them? LOL.
Individuals like you believe that you are so intelligent and thoughtful that you, and you alone, posses the ability to see through the myth of American freedom. And since you posses this unique ability to see the world as it truly is I must be either stupid or too propagandized to honestly disagree with you.
Agree with you and i am an enlightened person, disagree and i am nothing more than an unfortunate fool who has been brainwashed. Stop reading Chomsky, Zinn and Blum books and other entertaining and enlightening glimpses into the minds of the deranged. |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Konijn
lol again. well, apparently he did disarm 'cause we haven't found jack. u.n inspectors said as much at least a dozen times. everyone from blix on down knew, including the authors of the downing street memo. |
Right and the UN has been so honest throughout this whol process.:rolleyes: Next you will tell me how France and Russia are also. Want WMD...check Syria where they were shipped to.
| quote: | Originally posted by Konijn
bush and his neocon goons, who would sell out their grandmothers to avoid the personal costs of war, had been planning saddam's removal since the first gulf war ended. the elder bush could've pursued saddam in '91 but chose not to, because he knew that having a petty secular dictator in the area was far preferable to the other alternatives: (a) having radical mullahs running the place; (b) having an unknown dictator take charge; (c) civil war; (d) having real democracy, free of american influence take root -- the scariest option of all. |
LOL so they wanted him out since Bush 1? but waited to 2003? Ya that makes sense. |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blake
You can't fight terrorism with terror. It can only be done by making changes in society (or societies) so that it no longer produces terrorists. If the foundations of things don't change then there will always be people who are ignorant, angry, and mentally ill enough to blow themselves (and others) up. |
DING DING DING..isnt that why we are turning Afganistan and Iraq into Democracys? To CHANGE the society?:rolleyes: |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
LOL so they wanted him out since Bush 1? but waited to 2003? Ya that makes sense. |
That could be a reason, may not be the reason.
| quote: | | Petrodollar or Petroeuro? A new source of global conflict |
http://www.feasta.org/documents/review2/nunan.htm
That may be the better reason. |
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| Konijn |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
LOL so they wanted him out since Bush 1? but waited to 2003? Ya that makes sense. |
uhm, neocons weren't in power until 2000. |
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| trancinchink |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
No...we only rounded up Japanese AMERICANS and put them on pseudo concentration camps....maybe we should of done that to Arab AMERICANS!:rolleyes:
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yea... thats ALL we did. lets put our own fellow citizens into concentration camps. funny how u typed pseudo concentration camps, cuz when i learned about that in class... it was not quite pseudo. maybe you should read into more of our history of being bastards to our people of COLOR. |
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