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abu musab al-zarqawi is dead (pg. 7)
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| Blake |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Brainwashing? How did i do that?
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Not you. Those damn droning, repetative subway announcements.
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14 you are right what was the point....we should of not killed him cus there will always be terrorists. In fact we should not chase after murderers, rapists, and other criminals because, eh, whats the point there will just be more down the road. Are you retarded? and i dont mean that in a bad way...i mean like, seriously, are you slow?
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You misunderstood. I wasn't referring to the fact that he was killed. I was referring to the fact that you were overjoyed. There's a difference between killing with remorse (which is what a good deal of our soldiers go through), killing with indifference, and killing in jubilated glee.
All killing is socially dysfunctional. Sometimes it is necessary (or supposedly necessary). But guess which one of the above 3 types of killing most classifies you as being a psycho?
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
No JUSTICE. Have you people seen the beheadings? |
When this all went down Bush originally declared this war, "Operation Infinite Justice". He had to quickly retract that title. Ever think about why?
Please don't think that this country went to war was started because the US Government cares about the suffering of a few thousand citizens of almost 300 million. Hurricane Katrina anyone??
Surely you must know that the government of an entire country... ANY country, has much larger goals than those which consist of playing Kill Bill around the world simply to avenge its citizens.
As far as the executions go, yes, I'm sure at least some of us have seen them (myself included). Murder is an atrocity. They commit atrocities. We commit atrocities. They may be necessary sometimes, but they're all still atrocities, certainly nothing for human beings to be proud of. |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
To close my statements i will provide this quote that will explain how i feel about u lefties.
"You hate everything about America . You think both parties have gone down the tubes, the schools are brainwashing us, the corporations are evil, all human institutions are to be distrusted, etc., etc. For you, everything is a sham, so you sneer at everything. you bum everybody out, painting a hopeless picture of a takeover that only you and your theorists can see...& offer absolutely no course of action to remedy any of the imagined ills."
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I'm not all anti-corporate America (I work in a large law firm for crying out loud), but I will say that it's easy, whether intentional or not, to brainwash a bunch of mindless idiots, which is unfortunately how I view the majority of the American people. Can you blame me?? I look at BOTH the right and the left sometimes and think, "what the is wrong with you people."
Most people in this country don't even know what they're supporting by voting for someone. It's not based in their actual knowledge of anything. They just throw support towards whichever one they trust more for whatever stupid, non-logical reason. Lots of people trust Bush because they think he's a hick just like them (though he's not, he's a rich elitist who couldn't care at all about them). He's also religious and invokes it in everything he does, so they support him for that. This country will NEVER, in the next 200+ years, have a non-Christian president, beacuse just look how long it took to get a Catholic for god's sake.
They're too busy in their own lives to learn about issues, which I at least can credit the intellecual elitists on both sides for doing. Don't you think it's interesting, though, that the majority of highly educated people lean left?? For most, it's far more important who wins American Idol and what Brad and Angelina are doing for them to care what their government is doing. If it doesn't directly affect them, they don't care, which is why this government can use fear to motivate them to follow.
Also, as far as the lefty hatred for America, I grew up in Western PA, I know all about rednecks and how that sector of the country thinks. Living there growing up, so much of my surroundings and the people annoyed me, and I didn't even know better yet because I'd never gotten out. Now, when I return, having actually been outside that small bubble that they live in, I'm downright infuriated with some of the dumb that I have to hear. Half of them support this war because "we're getting rid of those ing towelheads." It's how the US was able to lump bin Laden and Iraq together to sell this war.
Just thinking about how little respect I have for most people depresses me. :( I know there's for than a few of you who think I'm a completely arrogant prick and that my views are ridiculous, and I've had friends in college who felt the same way. Then they've visited me when I've gone home and kind of gotten a taste of why I'm so critical. I really wish I could be more supportive of the world around me, but I'm so disgustingly jaded by what I've already seen, that I've pretty much given up.
OK, I've got to end the rant and get back to work, but let me end by reiterating that I'm glad this prick's dead, because he's an extreme example of a lot of the things that I just bitched about and brainwashed his followers with fear and religious intolerance into doing horrific deeds. |
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| umes23 |
| groundhogboy, we seem to share a lot in our perspective. i can agree with all those points, well said. |
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| Taub |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
It will cut off the head....when the leadership falls the people following arent as strong. |
It will never stop, another will come to power and prove to be even more cruel than him. Its a never ending cycle.
America did the same thing in south/central america in the 1970...now they are doing the same thing in Western Asia.
When will the US stop interfering in other peoples business? Who made US the mother of the world? To tell each and every country what it should do and what wrong its doing? Why are only a select few countires allowed to have Nuclear weapons? Why not make the feild even and let everyone and anyone have it, thats equality isn't it? Thats freedom isn't it? And isnt that what america is trying to preach to the Iraqis?
The US needs to stop playing Mommy! and sticing their necks in other countires business!
I love the US, it does have a good standard of living and you can be anyone who you choose to be. But it took us more than 200 years to come to this stage. So, let other countries go through them as well and learn. Stop trying to force others in to what you believe in |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Taub
Why are only a select few countires allowed to have Nuclear weapons? Why not make the feild even and let everyone and anyone have it, thats equality isn't it? Thats freedom isn't it? And isnt that what america is trying to preach to the Iraqis? |
Yeah, that's farther than I'd go. I'm worried enough with the few countries that have them. :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:
The last thing that we need is a bunch of dictators who are hellbent on world domination to possess them. Why do you think so many countries currently kiss our asses? |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Taub
It will never stop, another will come to power and prove to be even more cruel than him. Its a never ending cycle.
America did the same thing in south/central america in the 1970...now they are doing the same thing in Western Asia.
When will the US stop interfering in other peoples business? Who made US the mother of the world? To tell each and every country what it should do and what wrong its doing? Why are only a select few countires allowed to have Nuclear weapons? Why not make the feild even and let everyone and anyone have it, thats equality isn't it? Thats freedom isn't it? And isnt that what america is trying to preach to the Iraqis?
The US needs to stop playing Mommy! and sticing their necks in other countires business!
I love the US, it does have a good standard of living and you can be anyone who you choose to be. But it took us more than 200 years to come to this stage. So, let other countries go through them as well and learn. Stop trying to force others in to what you believe in |
You make good points. I don't feel that it's us playing mommy & daddy.
But that specific advisers probably felt that if things didn't change in america, that we would lose a lot of our power and big buisness would lose a lot of money, and the govn't wouldn't let that happen.
These things could probably be solved & would have been better if we invested more of the govnt's spending in education and such instead of other industries (cause we are getting stupid as a whole), but then again big buisness would have to adopt to the changing world, and many arn't ready too. This stops us as a society from learning at the rate we once were.
The majority of us are afraid of the change, esp the change that brought a country like ours into power, and even more the changes that will eventually knock us out. |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Why do you think so many countries currently kiss our asses? |
You must not have heard...
"Ft. Detrick in Frederick, MD, just 45 miles away from the nation's capitol, is going through a massive expansion into the largest bio-weapons facility in the world. The federal government is installing a 220 acre campus that will bring together numerous federal agencies anchored by a massive U.S. Army building - 22 acres in size. The National Interagency Biodefense Campus (NIBC) is likely to ignite a bio-weapons arms race." |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
You must not have heard...
"Ft. Detrick in Frederick, MD, just 45 miles away from the nation's capitol, is going through a massive expansion into the largest bio-weapons facility in the world. The federal government is installing a 220 acre campus that will bring together numerous federal agencies anchored by a massive U.S. Army building - 22 acres in size. The National Interagency Biodefense Campus (NIBC) is likely to ignite a bio-weapons arms race." |
I don't understand what this has do with other coutries kissing our asses?
It's just them developing more nasty weapons that we don't need with our tax dollars. We have always been a nation of hypocrites when it comes to weapons. Everyone can't have them, except us.
BTW, I thought there was a worldwide ban on chemical and biological weapons. Isn't that why we went into Iraq in the first place? Just reiterates the hypocrisy comment above. |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I don't understand what this has do with other coutries kissing our asses?
It's just them developing more nasty weapons that we don't need with our tax dollars. We have always been a nation of hypocrites when it comes to weapons. Everyone can't have them, except us.
BTW, I thought there was a worldwide ban on chemical and biological weapons. Isn't that why we went into Iraq in the first place? Just reiterates the hypocrisy comment above. |
When countries arn't cleaning our shoes enough, the govn't feels the need to do something to make them.
And yeah there is a ban :haha: :stongue: .
The funny thing is that in all of the Anthrax cases in america have all been traced back to american labs. |
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| Taub |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
When countries arn't cleaning our shoes enough, the govn't feels the need to do something to make them.
And yeah there is a ban :haha: :stongue: .
The funny thing is that in all of the Anthrax cases in america have all been traced back to american labs. |
In this post 9/11 we will never be able to live in this country without being scared, everyone you know is a terrorist and everywhere you go is a target.
So, just stay in your house and talk on the phone, search the web its safe, but just remember big brother is watching and listening in. Next time you hear a knock on the door just be scared
FOX news takes the win for scaring everyone each and everyday |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Taub
In this post 9/11 we will never be able to live in this country without being scared, everyone you know is a terrorist and everywhere you go is a target.
So, just stay in your house and talk on the phone, search the web its safe, but just remember big brother is watching and listening in. Next time you hear a knock on the door just be scared
FOX news takes the win for scaring everyone each and everyday |
9/11 is scary because Bush took everything and made it classified. So people don't know if and where there are security problems.
And the fact that the Homeland security retard spent some of NYCs Terrorist money on fields in Kansas makes you wonder if there is really anything to be afraid of at all.
I forget what was going on the other day and what it was relating too, but The Bush Admin made the Feds go in and seize every document so they couldnt be released.
Forgot where i read that. |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
How was what Clinton did a mistake? |
Clinton did nothing when Sudan offered Bin Laden.
Clinton did nothing when the USS Cole was bombed.
Clinton did nothing when the African Embassies were bombed.
Clinton did nothing when the Khobar Towers were bombed.
Clinton did nothing when the WTC was bombed the first time.
Clinton did nothing in Somalia except prove America cant take a casualty.
Ya Clinton did a lot to prevent all this.:rolleyes:
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
How many deaths have there been since Bush took office & the Bush before him? |
Not as many that died when Clinton did nothing for the people of Rwanda...Clinton the first black president? HA! |
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