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Hitler Themed Restaurant (pg. 9)
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| raveed |
| quote: | Originally posted by El Kay Dee
au contraire, i think he would go and help opening it and ask for 50% of the earnings...
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lol im sure hed love to do that but then hed get an even bigger bashing from the media
They could have some cool themes though. Have something like jenna and barbara tarts for dessert or forcing a bush burger on those who didnt order it and giving those who did order it a discount. |
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| Import |
| quote: | Originally posted by raveed
or forcing a bush burger on those who didnt order it and giving those who did order it a discount. |
Hah yes... |
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| 7-4-7 |
Restaurant looks awesome. But it is a really stupid idea there is no correlation that can be bridged between Hitler (the man) and food, unless the chef s on a plate to get an erection.
I'd eat there, nervously...but I'd go.
and wolfenstein rules. |
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| 7-4-7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Elendil
A lot of people overstate Hitler's genius - he was far more charismatic than he was rational and intellectual. His Military strategy was piss poor, and utterly useless - in fact, his decisions and directions led to the overall German loss in World War II - both on the Eastern front, and the Western front. His arrogance led to continually strategic contradictions amongst he and his Generals, and his insistance on idealogical battles spread his military thin on useless goals - something which an intelligent man would have certainly avoided.
He was a poor Art student, and lacked much of an education - he was a poor writer, and his rise to prominance was due more to chance (being in the right place at the right time) and obsession with power.
Hitler is one of those guys who's Charisma is too often mistaken for genius - its almost like people adorn him with Superhero qualities. |
it is all a matter of opinion, it is hard to separate a man as stigamtized as Hitler from his "achievements", most people who can, will at the very least acknowledge that he possessed characteristics of the highest level of leadership, charisma and also intelligence. He came very close to making the western world German, yet we speak of his poor grammar and poor art skills...you say arrogance, when it could be madness - he went mad. And that was the beginning of the end. |
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| Frenchie |
I think it'll bring in a ton of money tourist wise. Sure poeple don't really wanna be seen eating next to a swastika sign, but hey, think of the publicity it'll get which will eventually bring in money. I'm not saying I think this is a " good " or " acceptable " idea, but what's acceptable anymore?
| quote: | | I swear, if I saw Jewburger on there, I totally take back everything I said about this restaurant, thats just ing wrong. |
OK, now that would be pathetically disgraceful. That would be crossing the line a little don't you think.
I'd visit it, for the sake of saying, " I went there ". |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by zokissima
I think its interesting of how many people have uninformed, purely negative associations with anything having to do with Hitler/Nazism. Not to disagree with the atrocities of the holocause, but I'm glad that someone was able to point out that Hitler was not a doofus. He was terribly misguided, but his rationale and logic was that of an intelligent mind.
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Oh yes, he was, 'terribly misguided'. :rolleyes:
That's like saying Pol Pot was, "horribly erroneous".
Gimmie a break; spoken like a true politically correct liberal.
I have no doubt he wasn't an idiot; he certainly snowballed enough people in this day (and continues to apparently).
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25 million Russians died in WWII, and many other nationalities. Who's crying for them?
500,000 Japanese died in a matter of minutes, victim to the only atomic bombs dropped in anger against another nationality. Who's crying for them?
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Don't you people get tired of making exuses and befuddling the arguement with irrelavancy?
Why not explain to all of us how this has anything to do with this restaurant?
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Associating this restaurant with "Spitting at freedom" - possibly the stupidest thing written on this board.
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Obviously some of us actually learn from our past and have a sense of respect for those millions that died defeating that monster.
Talk to a few vets and ask THEM about how they feel about this restaurant and see what kind of reaction you get.
I already know. Do you? |
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| 7-4-7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Oh yes, he was, 'terribly misguided'. :rolleyes:
That's like saying Pol Pot was, "horribly erroneous".
Gimmie a break; spoken like a true politically correct liberal.
I have no doubt he wasn't an idiot; he certainly snowballed enough people in this day (and continues to apparently).
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there is nothing politically correct or liberal about being in any way shape or form understanding in any way when it comes to Hitler. How this is a matter of being liberal I dont know,
This is not a matter of political correctness this is about perspective. He was miguided, by his own combination of insanity, obsession and power.
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Don't you people get tired of making exuses and befuddling the arguement with irrelavancy? |
25 million Russians died in WWII - wasnt aware that was irrelevant. it is actually quite relevant, maybe not to this nonsense about a restaurant but to the greater picture of atrocities
How are people to this day "snowballed" exactly? |
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| Kytracid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodrico
I swear, if I saw Jewburger on there, I totally take back everything I said about this restaurant, thats just ing wrong. |
LOL ! You've cracked me up with almost everyone of your posts in this thread.
Come on people. Don't get your politically correct panties up in a twist now. So the restaurant is named after and pays homage to Adolf Hitler. A deranged mass murderer – and the only man in history who makes Pol Pot and Saddam look like moderates. So what ? It's not a shrine to him. It's not turning him into a deity - It's not a NeoNazi hotspot where the baldest, and brightest convene to talk about the final solution over a $5.99 combo of Jewburger and Homofries - It's a stupid, gimmicky, marketing ploy to get people talking. If it glorified the holocaust, I'd understand the need for sensitivity. But naming a place "Hitler's Cross" to me is like naming a place " streak". Ultimately you're going to get a percentage of the public who are turned off by what they see on the sign, and another who are intrigued, the rest (majority) will only go there if the foods and the service is any good. Once the outrage over the name has died down, the place will survive on merit alone.
Now...if they start to franchise, and we have waiters dressed like stormtroopers running around serving hot curry I'd begin to get worried. But one silly owner, exercising his freedom of expression(and the universal right to be stupid) doesn't bother me in the least. It's a stupid idea. It's in poor taste. But so are a million other things...
PS. The Swastik does have origins in India, but the one used by the Nazi's is turned on an angle. The Swastik is a sanskrit word for "Good fortune". By turning it on the side, the Nazi's destroyed the positive energy it brings. Most Hindu's will point to the improper use of the Swastik as foreshadowing the Nazi's demise. |
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| Kytracid |
Hitler wasn't a genius. But he is probably one of the greatest orators of the last century. If you need proof, just listen to any one of his recorded speeches. Even if you don't understand what he's saying (cause I don't), you can recognize the power and conviction in his voice. It's simply electric. Now, bear in mind, he wasn't a great writer with the prose or the diction of a Churchill, nor was he gifted with a hypnotic or powerful voice. Many people in fact find it raspy and quite unpleasant. What he did possess however, was a flair for the dramatic, and the ability to manipulate the masses. In a very perverse sense, he was a showman and a damn good one at that.
His ability to captivate a crowd, and then whip them into a buzzing frenzy is legendary. And even though the ultimate message being filtered through was despicably vile, the techniques he used in delivery are well worth studying. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodrico
Best idea ever. |
+1, wow. Awesomeness.
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
Problem is I doubt anyone would actually eat there...who wants to be seen in a "Hitler Restaurant" really? |
I would - if the food was good and the ambience inside was plasant, I'd go to enjoy a meal.
| quote: | Originally posted by raveed
maybe not initially but if it turns out that the food is exemplary, I wouldnt let a stupid publicity stunt name stop me from going there.
Im not a fan of hitler but im sure as hell a fan of good food. |
^^ exactly
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodrico
I would eat there just to say I ate there. |
Ditto. |
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| ZeJayMan |
| come on, why use Hitler as a symbol for a restaurant other than to cause a huge scandal and media erruption, i'm sure the food would be pretty awful anyhow. I don't eat in McDonalds because i don't agree with their beliefs and ways of doing things, i'm sure as hell never going to eat in Hitler's place. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
LOL ! You've cracked me up with almost everyone of your posts in this thread.
Come on people. Don't get your politically correct panties up in a twist now. So the restaurant is named after and pays homage to Adolf Hitler. A deranged mass murderer – and the only man in history who makes Pol Pot and Saddam look like moderates. So what ? It's not a shrine to him. It's not turning him into a deity - It's not a NeoNazi hotspot where the baldest, and brightest convene to talk about the final solution over a $5.99 combo of Jewburger and Homofries - It's a stupid, gimmicky, marketing ploy to get people talking. If it glorified the holocaust, I'd understand the need for sensitivity. But naming a place "Hitler's Cross" to me is like naming a place " streak". Ultimately you're going to get a percentage of the public who are turned off by what they see on the sign, and another who are intrigued, the rest (majority) will only go there if the foods and the service is any good. Once the outrage over the name has died down, the place will survive on merit alone.
Now...if they start to franchise, and we have waiters dressed like stormtroopers running around serving hot curry I'd begin to get worried. But one silly owner, exercising his freedom of expression(and the universal right to be stupid) doesn't bother me in the least. It's a stupid idea. It's in poor taste. But so are a million other things...
PS. The Swastik does have origins in India, but the one used by the Nazi's is turned on an angle. The Swastik is a sanskrit word for "Good fortune". By turning it on the side, the Nazi's destroyed the positive energy it brings. Most Hindu's will point to the improper use of the Swastik as foreshadowing the Nazi's demise. |
ing love and eargerly read your posts (the smart points you make) when you do in fact post Kytracid. Great. ^5 ^5
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodrico
lol, this restaurant and wolfenstein are both products that are Hitler themed.
Does the restaurant promote the holocaust, no, its about an infamous political dictator. Even in bad taste, the restaurant isnt promoting some sort of evil thing, or some old nazi ideology. I mean if the menu had a Jewburger, okay, maybe I would find it way too offensive to eat there. But its just showcasing a man and a generation of people during a trouble time in the worlds history. Im not saying I would go every day and eat there, but it would be interesting to see what food they serve and what kind of decorations and information they put inside to showcase a man like Hitler. |
I'm with you Rodrico. Ppl are WAY too sensational about this. Calm down -IMO.
| quote: | Originally posted by El Kay Dee
i want to start an Albert Einstein Restaurant....
oh wait..then again it would be welcomed despite him making that little bomb that killed so many in Hiroshima and nagasaki and have left alot of the current population still suffering from physical defects due to mutation |
OOooooo, excellent point, haha
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Talk to a few vets and ask THEM about how they feel about this restaurant and see what kind of reaction you get.
I already know. Do you? |
Well, for them, they shold avoid this place. Its most def not for them! Let others frequent it, they dont need to . |
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