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| pkcRAISTLIN |
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AUSTRALIA'S senior Muslim cleric cannot be sacked or deported despite the outrage caused by him saying immodestly dressed women invite sexual attacks.
Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali today "unreservedly" apologised for any offence caused to women by his comments, made in a Ramadan sermon last month.
But he said he had been misunderstood and added: "I had only intended to protect women's honour."
The mufti of Australia and New Zealand was tonight under intense pressure from within the Muslim community over the sermon in which he likened scantily-dressed women to uncovered meat eaten by animals.
Many Muslim leaders and groups today distanced themselves from his remarks and some called for their religious figurehead to stand down.
Five Muslim leaders at Gallipoli Mosque in Sydney's west said many Muslims were "sick and tired" of religious leaders like Sheik Alhilali claiming to speak on their behalf.
"Whether he steps down or not, I think it's time for Australia's Muslim faith to have a religious leader who has a better understanding of Australian laws, Australian values, and the Australian way of life," said Alia Karaman, one of three women in the group.
A former member of the Federal Government's Muslim Advisory board, Iktimal Hage-Ali, said she had listened to a recording of Sheik Alhilali's speech and believed he should be stripped of his position.
"I was just flabbergasted," she said to ABC radio.
Prime Minister John Howard labelled Sheik Alhilali's comments "appalling and reprehensible".
"They are quite out of touch with contemporary values in Australia.
"The idea that women are to blame for rapes is preposterous."
Federal Sex Discrimination Commissioner Pru Goward suggested the sheik be dumped or deported, saying: "I think it is time he left."
But, as an Australian citizen, the mufti cannot be deported and in his position as Islam's most senior religious figure in Australia, he is not answerable to any organisation.
The Egypt-born imam came to Australia in 1982 and cannot have his citizenship revoked.
He was appointed mufti by Australia's peak Islamic body, the Federation of Islamic Councils of Australia (FICA), 15 years ago, but no-one has the authority to sack him.
"Nobody can sack him because it's not an elected position," said Amir Ali, the chairman of the Prime Minister's Muslim Community Reference Group and immediate past president of FICA.
The Lebanese Muslim Association (LMA) can withdraw his right to speak at Sydney's Lakemba Mosque, where he preaches, but has given him "the benefit of the doubt" until it reviews the tape of his contentious sermon.
Sheik Alhilali today appeared badly affected by the backlash to his remarks, with a spokesman saying he was depressed and confined to bed all day, breathing with the assistance of an oxygen tank.
The storm of outrage followed The Australian newspaper's translation of his speech last month.
According to the translation, Sheik Alhilali said: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat.
"The uncovered meat is the problem.
"If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab (Islamic headscarf which covers the hair neck and shoulders), no problem would have occurred."
In a statement today, the sheik apologised but said the translation misrepresented his intentions. pkc says "ING BULL!"
He also rejected calls from across the Muslim and non-Muslim community to retract his comments.
In the statement, he said his speech related to religious teachings on modesty and did not condone rape.
"I condemn rape and reiterate that this is a capital crime," he said.
He also told the Nine Network he would not resign, and that he believed he had the support of Australia's Muslim community.
He added: "It's a woman's prerogative and right to dress how she wishes in this society – nobody can force or expects to force or compel a woman to dress in a particular way." |
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yeah, and embassies of governments whose private citizens print pics of mohammed should be burned down too. i mean , if theres one thing worse than religious tards preaching bull, its religious islamic tards preaching bull. i like to consider myself a reasonable enough person, but like this isn't ing good enough. religion of peace and understanding my ing arse. |
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| Trance Nutter |
yeah, pretty much
(what pkc said, not the imam) |
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| tonydanza |
I wonder what sort of reaction he was aiming to get with that remark
Way to help shake the stereotypical stigma you eater |
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| Ghostface |
| I really pity this pathetic piece of crap if he really thinks like that. |
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| Deeman |
That is quite possibly the most outlandish and proposterous comment I've heard in recent times if not ever. How is one supposed to be misunderstood by saying that and then, how is one supposed to interpret that in any other way apart from 'seeing his point' that women are responsible for themselves being raped by what they wear? Rape is rape, there is no fuken just reason or excuse for it. Agreed PKC this MUFTI is a FUKTARD of gargantuan proportions and should be arse fuked against his will bc he wears MUFTI clothing!
Cockhead! |
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| MiSSyM |
Yeah well Im pretty sure he aint the only ignorant fool who thinks like that....some males just simply suffer from F.I.T.H syndrome.
OK fair enough, a female 'shouldnt' be walking the streets naked or cockteasing/etc.....however if they were it STILL does not give the right for anyone to sexually attack them!
Instead, I think a nice big strong headbutt would do the trick.
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| gumble |
i think we have heard this all before, from different levels of that religion.
how long will the clash go on for before our 2 societies really see that its never going to work?
and i dont mean just in aus, britain etc as well.
it just feels that someday, something big will happen and topple everything, and something like cronulla will be on a crazy scale. |
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| DIDI |
| The worst thing [aside from his actual comments] is how it will affect people attitudes to the many ordinary muslims that now live here. Unfortunately no matter how many moderates come out against him, his comments will always be the ones remembered and quoted.:( |
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| Philby |
| quote: | Originally posted by DIDI
The worst thing [aside from his actual comments] is how it will affect people attitudes to the many ordinary muslims that now live here. |
i think chopper summed that up quite well tonight on ronnie johns...
"no matter if you spend 23 years in prison you'll get away with it if there is someone looking like an arab"
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| Aesthetic |
Someone went on the press to say "his message was taken out of context" ..
what he meant to say was "women deserve to be ED en guy, hahahahaha" |
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| PauLie_C |
| the wanker should be put down! |
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| AnitA |
| quote: | Originally posted by PauLie_C
the wanker should be put down! |
This reminds me when those Lebs in Sydney gang raped and tormented that Aussie chick and said she asked for it!
This C.U.N.T needs to be deported - along with any other male with this mentality!!
But first, he needs to be beat up black and blue so his own mother wouldn't recognise then thrown into a faken fire.
Scum like that needs to be exterminated from this earth.
No mercy!
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