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JOC/Tyas/ - Bassdrum Kick?
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| MoonMan |
You have a probably all noticed that most productions featuring John O' Callaghan and Sean Tyas all use a very prominent kick, that is tight and really stands out. What kind of production techniques are used for this type of kick?. I know that EQ and compression, and experimentation are the keys to nailing that perfect kick blending through the mix. :)
You have to start with good foundations right?
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| retiro |
I've never noticed!
I know that EQ and compression, and experimentation are the keys to nailing that perfect kick blending through the mix!
Combined with a decent kick you've, kinda answered your own question.
Clicky
You know that kick you sent ages ago? Well resampled and layed with it ages ago. I have included this in the a pack along with the kick sitting in a basic percussion set-up! |
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| mysticalninja |
see if you can sample it in one of the songs, preferably off a vinyl release.
VINYL RIPPED KICKS ARE TEH FATTEST. |
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| retiro |
| Thats all good and well but then your percussion start to sound weak. Re-compessing a static ridden kick is near impossible. |
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| thoughtlessjex |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
see if you can sample it in one of the songs, preferably off a vinyl release.
VINYL RIPPED KICKS ARE TEH FATTEST. |
You're being sarcastic, right? |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
You're being sarcastic, right? |
No, just an idiot. |
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| mysticalninja |
no. ALOT of vengeance kicks are derived from samples off records, at least 50% of your vengeance kicks are vinyl rips he processed that someone probably ripped before him. that is why at least half of them have percussion present over the kick.
the fattest dirtiest crunchiest kicks are 808/909's processed, pressed to vinyl, ripped by someone, re processed, maybe layered if its recently made, and repeated for the last 10+ years. until we got here, the 21st century where someones done it for you and put it on a sample cd which they made by processing kicks from other sample cds. so now thats where you come in thinking all kicks come from so you dont believe you can get fat kicks off vinyl.
fact: manuel from vengeance made all his kicks processing other kicks he found on the internet, vinyls, and various sample cds, no he didnt create his kicks from scratch in wavelab or soundforge by pitching sine waves. go ahead and ask him. that only works for ass psy kicks. if you want to try to recreate a 909 and then try to recreate the crunchy compression and low end thump vinyl gives a 909, GL and HF.
all these kick sample cds you guys have, come from people who rip the kick from the intro of every new vinyl they buy, even if theyre not gonna use it, they know it could be a good layer maybe. as long as your kick collection grows.
i have NEVER heard a decent kick come out of a wav editor.
btw doesnt sean tyas use alot of vengeance loops? chances are its a vengeance kick slightly processed to fit his song.
bottom line: ripping your own kick off vinyl and processing it to fit your song is more original than using a vengeance kick. you're just skipping the middle man. |
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| retiro |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
No, just an idiot. |
Would you like to elaborate on that?
Vague nonsense like that isn't really helping anyone, is it. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by retiro
Would you like to elaborate on that?
Vague nonsense like that isn't really helping anyone, is it. |
"Nothing personal, just my honest opinion." |
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| retiro |
| Thats okay then ;) |
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| Allied Nations |
| I bet Sean Tyas makes all his records, presses em, rips em, then presses the rips, then rips the pressed rips and plays them on cds. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allied Nations
I bet Sean Tyas makes all his records, presses em, rips em, then presses the rips, then rips the pressed rips and plays them on cds. |
I bet he rips the intros of his own tracks for kicks as well. |
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