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Male freedom of choice? (pg. 14)
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| Lilith |
Well, do you need the stress of supporting another human being for the next 18 years, god knows most of the little mongrels don't move out until their early 20's so youre lucky if they make their own way by 18.
Kind of throws a damper on the party life... |
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| LazFX |
Ok, Ok! What did I miss? If any one knows about having kids and the do's and don't of having kids before 30, its me.....
going back into this thread to catch up, then I will bless you all with my advice..
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
does artificial intelligence have a right to life, if your answer is not absolute, in what circumstances does it have the right and in what circumstances doesn't it have the right? |
Well, we're still not sure whether artificial intelligence (as in Strong AI) is actually possible. This debate would end up extremely long to be in another thread (and I admit I'm a bit short of time here :p). |
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| HardTranceProd |
The guy from Estonia really nailed it. No woman can be sure how she will respond to getting pregnant - and they often change their minds at the last moment. When a woman gets pregnant, she goes through certain biological changes (this is well-documented) that she is not responsible for. In response to Theresa's comment that "immature people shouldn't have sex"... it's actually immature to believe a woman's opinions prior to pregnancy! She is driven by certain chemicals that only reveal themselves at certain times, but not others.
BUT: let's assume the woman is mature, intelligent, and confident. Suppose she gets pregnant, and the guy doesn't want a child. The guy tells her in plain terms: "I do not want to be a father. I am not ready and will not make a good parent. I am absolutely against having a child."
What would an intelligent woman do in this case? If she's intelligent, she understands that she won't get the best of male investment in this case (even if he pays money - despite some bare-bones investment, it won't be great, and the child won't reach his/her full potential). So it shouldn't be in the woman's interest to raise a child where the father is not 100% on board, unless she can find another caretaker, which is near impossible (few males want to raise other men's children).
Society also bears the burden of children with single mothers. Besides various social expenses, such children are also likely to become criminals or dysfunctional.
Therefore: Women who carry to full term knowing full well that the male is adamantly against being a father are no less stupid (actually even MORE stupid) than the immature guys who forgot to use a condom and weren't ready for the consequences.
Normally, the man should want to raise his children with the same love as the woman, because he wants his genes to succeed just like the woman does. Nobody has to tell him, he does it because he wants to. Forced parenthood is like a military draft: it should never be necessary. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Does the woman not know what she is getting into when she lets him put his dick in? Therefore she should not be allowed to abort.
That is the logic, at least. |
Poor argument and not logical. We're talking two very different things here. What you suggest is taking away a person's right to control their own body. |
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| Jansa |
I think the current legal situation is unfair, but it's the best we got.
The right to opt-out could only be considered when:
A) It is made illegal to have sex without previously signing a contract to state both person's responsibilities should pregnancy occur.
B) We develop a way to be 100% sure that the person is not lying, just to get out of an uncomfortable situation.
Cannot see that happening.
I admire the women who take a man's point of view into consideration when deciding whether to have the child or not. Unfortunately it is IMO more common that the future of two people are decided by a woman and her girlfriends, rather than the two people who were actually having sex.
Please, ladies, consider the thoughts of your partners and the best interest of the child.
/Dr. Phil |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Everything has its price though. The entire universe is action and reaction - attempting to remove any consequence is just trading one set of problems for another. |
removing the relevant responsibilities related to childbirth from the equation doesn't result in the automagical removal of consequence or so called price. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Poor argument and not logical. We're talking two very different things here. What you suggest is taking away a person's right to control their own body. |
it boils down to different degrees of directness, because in the current situation a person's right to control their own body is absent (you have to work x time to raise the money to support the child).
in fact it is your argument which is illogical. |
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| all-nite-freak |
| swallowing cum is cannibalism:gsmile: :rolleyes: |
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| UWM |
| Automagical is my new favorite word. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by all-nite-freak
swallowing cum is cannibalism:gsmile: :rolleyes: |
did you have fun flogging the horse? |
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| all-nite-freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
did you have fun flogging the horse? |
is this some kind of tranny code or somethin?:p |
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