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Male freedom of choice? (pg. 24)
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by distant
And why is the man not involved in this choice?
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He already made his choice.
He used his body to make his choice, KNOWING that there may be a choice later made by the woman with what she wants to do with her body in result to the choice he made with his body. Choice made and done.
It is HER body, and therefore has the sole right to make the choice of what she wants to do with it. |
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| distant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
You are responsible for leaving the acorn somewhere where it could be fertilized.
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So if I jizz on a public toilet seat, and a girl comes in right after me and sits on it, I'll be responsible for the kid? |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
He already made his choice.
He used his body to make his choice, KNOWING that there may be a choice later made by the woman with what she wants to do with her body in result to the choice he made with his body. Choice made and done.
It is HER body, and therefore has the sole right to make the choice of what she wants to do with it. |
Exactly. And once a woman gets pregnant, she has all of the choices. And the man has given up his right to bodily autonomy and to his finances by choosing to have sex.
This makes perfect sense and anybody who questions it is an insensitive ogre and probably runs around impregnating woman indiscriminately.
Correct? |
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| distant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
He already made his choice.
He used his body to make his choice, KNOWING that there may be a choice later made by the woman with what she wants to do with her body in result to the choice he made with his body. Choice made and done.
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He made the choice to have an orgasm during the act of sex. Nothing else.
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
It is HER body, and therefore has the sole right to make the choice of what she wants to do with it. |
It's still my jizz.
I've noticed that you keep arguing what is, not what should be. You say that the man knows this and that about the consequences. What makes you think that the status quo is optimal? As has been said before, women were treated like hundreds of years ago. They knew it was so, but eventually women stood up and chose not to accept it anymore. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Sure, but you are not consenting to a baby, unless we accept your bizarre, lop-sided "logic." |
"When you have sex, you are consenting to the possibility that, EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY TRY TO PREVENT IT, the act MIGHT result in your partner becoming pregnant."
You are therefore consenting to the possible chance of there being a baby created.
I do not see how this is "lop-sided logic".
| quote: | Originally posted by distant
You still haven't explained why, in this day and age, a man should bear that burdon.
So, what you're still arguing is: Women love sex, men love sex, but only the woman has a choice as to what comes of it, should the condom break. |
Seriously... what you are saying is so beyond common sense in my mind that it blows me away. I hardly know how to respond.
It doesn't matter what day and age it is, it is simple biological occurences that have always been and always will be, (assuming we don't evolve too askew from what we are now). |
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| Frenchie |
| quote: | Originally posted by distant
So if I jizz on a public toilet seat, and a girl comes in right after me and sits on it, I'll be responsible for the kid? |
No. It's her fault for sitting on the toilet! Nasstyyy |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
He already made his choice.
He used his body to make his choice, KNOWING that there may be a choice later made by the woman with what she wants to do with her body in result to the choice he made with his body. Choice made and done.
It is HER body, and therefore has the sole right to make the choice of what she wants to do with it. |
and she used her body to make a choice and should therefore take responsibility for any results that may happen from promiscuity. abortion is irresponsible imo. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
I do not see how this is "lop-sided logic". |
It is lop-sided in that once the woman is pregnant, she retains all of her rights while the man loses all of his. Very simple. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| And in case I have not made this clear enough, the rights lost are bodily autonomy, since he can be thrown in prison, and discretion with his finances, since they may be taken from him. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| theresa what jive is trying to say is it's ok for a woman to say "i don't want the baby" but it's not ok for a man to say so. that's some bull. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Yes you can.
You are responsible for leaving the acorn somewhere where it could be fertilized.
Just like it would be my fault for leaving my purse alone in the bus station, and having the money taken from it.
Being robbed was just as much my fault as it was the person who took the money. |
that analogy only works if you get pleasure out of leaving your purse at bus stations. :wtf: |
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