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Male freedom of choice? (pg. 27)
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| Frenchie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
excellent point. |
No. They know that they're giving up their sperm for women/couples who can't get pregnant. I do think, however, that they ( if asked for ) let you know who the donor is. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
and as almost all others points here, one that has been posted previously in this same thread. :p |
yeah it has been going around in circles for a while :stongue:
no one is willing to give a little |
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| Frenchie |
No. They know that they're giving up their sperm for women/couples who can't get pregnant. I do think, however, that they ( if asked for ) let you know who the donor is.
EDIT: I mean yes excellent point. |
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| Theresa |
In a perfect world (IMO), a woman who is pregnant and realizes that both of the parties involved are not entirely committed to taking care of the potential child, she would have an abortion.
Unfortunately, not all women agree with me.
The reality of the situation is that a woman can choose to have the child, even if she probably shouldn't.
By having sex with her, you inadvertantly agreed to the terms that she had the sole power of making this choice. You should not be able to opt out on something you agreed to and created.
It is a shame - I agree, but that is life. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frenchie
No. They know that they're giving up their sperm for women/couples who can't get pregnant. I do think, however, that they ( if asked for ) let you know who the donor is. |
well according to theresa she felt that in the acorn example AND the somewhat crappy jizz-on-the-toilet analogy that the man was responsible for the jizz. according to theresa the male should "know" that by jackin on a ter there's a possibility of pregnancy and should therefore take responsibility for his sperm, no matter what. in the same respect the male should take responsibility for the sperm he donated, no matter what. so supposedly the male should "know" that by donating sperm he may get a woman pregnant and should therefore take responsibility for his actions. that's bull. |
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| Lilith |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
The current legal situation is that the woman makes this decision for both people.
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Thats what lawyers are for.
If she has the kid, doesnt tell you, doesnt have anything to do with you after the deed and suddenly turns up on your doorstep out of nowhere with a kid in arm looking for a handout. Thats when you get a lawyer, preferably a really good one and start weighing up how much its going to cost you for the next 18years and what its going to cost you in the immediate present. |
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| distant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
In a perfect world (IMO), a woman who is pregnant and realizes that both of the parties involved are not entirely committed to taking care of the potential child, she would have an abortion.
Unfortunately, not all women agree with me.
The reality of the situation is that a woman can choose to have the child, even if she probably shouldn't.
By having sex with her, you inadvertantly agreed to the terms that she had the sole power of making this choice. You should not be able to opt out on something you agreed to and created.
It is a shame - I agree, but that is life. |
[way back machine]
You're a slave. Live with it.
[/way back machine]
I consider this argument won. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frenchie
No. They know that they're giving up their sperm for women/couples who can't get pregnant. I do think, however, that they ( if asked for ) let you know who the donor is.
EDIT: I mean yes excellent point. |
oh sorry lol |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frenchie
No. They know that they're giving up their sperm for women/couples who can't get pregnant. I do think, however, that they ( if asked for ) let you know who the donor is. |
it's a good point because it invalidates an idea theresa presented, but it has no significant effect in this particular discussion beyond that.
as for knowing who the donor is, there are confidentiality agreements that prevent that (aswell as contracts releasing the donor from any and all parental responsibilities). |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
You should not be able to opt out on something you agreed to and created.
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that's what an abortion is. the woman agreed JUST AS MUCH as the male did when they decided to have sex. a woman should not be able to opt out on something she agreed to and created. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
it's a good point because it invalidates an idea theresa presented, but it has no significant effect in this particular discussion beyond that.
as for knowing who the donor is, there are confidentiality agreements that prevent that (aswell as contracts releasing the donor from any and all parental responsibilities). |
frenchie was actually agreeing with you there lol |
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| Frenchie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
it's a good point because it invalidates an idea theresa presented, but it has no significant effect in this particular discussion beyond that.
as for knowing who the donor is, there are confidentiality agreements that prevent that (aswell as contracts releasing the donor from any and all parental responsibilities). |
I was agreeing with you!!! lol
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
frenchie was actually agreeing with you there lol |
lol yes! |
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