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2007 yet another vintage year for trance (pg. 3)
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| Aristronica |
David West, to a point, have revived some interest in the scene for me personally.
Artists mentioned by emc^2 have not, sorry, I think they haven't pulled off anything original. Esp. Tyas, I have a problem with this guy ing with historically ace tracks and adding his "kick" to them. Something really wrong with that. |
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| FCB_Fanatic |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancedanne
their old tracks are nothing special at all, they were saved by good remixes, but their new style is awesome imo! |
it's just a matter of taste. I agree with Config, I don't like their newest work either |
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| Rainborn |
| Rebel9, Chris and Ian has got some good taste, I tend to get what they suggest. Vibrasphere are indeed great, but I've been much too lazy to get their latest tracks. |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rainborn
Rebel9, Chris and Ian has got some good taste, I tend to get what they suggest. Vibrasphere are indeed great, but I've been much too lazy to get their latest tracks. |
keep your eyes peeled for this album |
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| emc^2 |
hm.. perhaps my judgement is skewed. I judge a track on merit of complexity involved with making it, emotion it delivers, production quality, etc. I don't necessarily listen to tracks as your average listener.
Keep in mind that we are discussing different genres of sound. Psy and Trance, while both being EDM are not the same (hate to be Cpt. F-n Obvious). So, instead of turning this conversation into psy < trance or vice-versa, I'm just focusing on factors listed above.
I dabble in some home producing and when I listen to tracks I try to mentally break it down into pieces - so, most of the producers I listed, I personally find just as inspiring as some of the "older" ones. In terms of influence and sound, I say that this will be a good year for EDM music, regardless of genres. Why, you ask?
I think that overall the "old(er)" sound has become over-used, over-done, and just plain boring. This year I'm beginning to see what is shaping up to be a convergence of styles: Tech/Trance/House or Prog/Trance/Tech elements popping up all over the place.
I think the sound evolution has reached a critical turning point and it will be a great year for music. Sorry if I am a bit over-optimistic, but time will tell. ;) |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by emc^2
Keep in mind that we are discussing different genres of sound. Psy and Trance, while both being EDM are not the same (hate to be Cpt. F-n Obvious). |
Yes, like "deep house" and "house" are not the same. One is a sub-category of the other. Psy is a type of trance.
Whatever your intentions may be, saying things like that comes off as, "Oh, you listen to psy, not real trance!" |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by emc^2
I think that overall the "old(er)" sound has become over-used, over-done, and just plain boring. This year I'm beginning to see what is shaping up to be a convergence of styles: Tech/Trance/House or Prog/Trance/Tech elements popping up all over the place.
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It's funny that you think the older sound is over-used and at the same time list Sean Tyas and his likes as a "refreshing" act. If you've been in the scene for a couple of years it would be pretty obvious that it's the same stuff which was made a 5 years ago but in a new box. |
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| Cobalt |
| quote: | Originally posted by emc^2
I must say that based on what I am hearing now - in clubs, new releases, and yes, even ASOT - I have to admit that era of great trance is once again upon us.
I think Aly and Fila are the hottest producers ATM and will be scorchers this year, right along side with SvD.
Your thoughts? |
Not at all.
I can count the number of trance tracks I liked from 2006 on one hand. In fact, here you go:
Nitrous Oxide - North Pole
Armin van Buuren - Control Freak (Sander Van Doorn Remix)
Mac & Mac - Listen
Raisani & Borgesius - Complete Nansensu
Emjay - Real High (played in 2005, released in 2006)
It would be six if Coast 2 Coast - Cut Me had been released. And those are only the ones I liked.
It was, without a doubt, the most artistically bankrupt year for trance yet. 2006 even beat out 2004, and that's pretty remarkable.
PS: Vibrasphere never particularly turned my crank. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by RebeL9
It's funny that you think the older sound is over-used and at the same time list Sean Tyas and his likes as a "refreshing" act. If you've been in the scene for a couple of years it would be pretty obvious that it's the same stuff which was made a 5 years ago but in a new box. |
But the kick is harder! |
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| emc^2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Yes, like "deep house" and "house" are not the same. One is a sub-category of the other. Psy is a type of trance.
Whatever your intentions may be, saying things like that comes off as, "Oh, you listen to psy, not real trance!" |
I dig most styles of EDM (gabber and most of D&B excluded). Never did I say that psy is not real trance. personally, I think trance should be banned as a description for style of music, but rather left alone as a description of a feeling (hehe, sorry for cliche but - "a state"). Trance is a very blurry line now. I personally wouldn't consider "Control Freak" a trance choon. I'd say it's tech/prog, maybe...
Oh, and in terms of a track construction & structure, each style has its distinctive "signature". There's no way one can mistake Psy for Trance... Psy tends to be more darker, more trippy side of trance (faster too). I've yet to see some DJ strike a JC pose while spinning a Psy track. :D
I see Psy as almost a "Trance's big brother, who's mixed up with a wrong type of crowd". (Trance being that preppy, nerdy kid who thinks that world is a beautiful place, while Psy is working hard at proving him wrong).
sorry for such a far-fetched analogy.
again, I keep in mind that this is just my opinion. your mileage may varry... |
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| emc^2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by RebeL9
It's funny that you think the older sound is over-used and at the same time list Sean Tyas and his likes as a "refreshing" act. If you've been in the scene for a couple of years it would be pretty obvious that it's the same stuff which was made a 5 years ago but in a new box. |
Hm. perhaps "over-used" should not be used as a blanket statement. I'd say that some of the sound has become cliche. Who knows, maybe because the same sample libraries were available to producers, or people were just copying one another. dunno. some of the older stuff does not age and as much as it is copied, it is still classic. hate to use cliche examples again, but here are some classics that I think are still great:
Underworld - Born Slippy
BT - Flaming June, MISL
BBE - 7 days and 1 week
Faithless - Insomnia, we come one, taranchula, god is a dj, long way home
PvD - Bullet in the gun (rmx)
Moonman - where are you now
System F- out of the blue
Gouryella - Tenshi, Ligaya
William Orbit - Barber's Adagio For Strings (F. Corsten rmx)
Armin - communication
RAF by Picotto - Bakerloo symphony
Hydra - Affinity
Thrillseekers - Synaesthesia
T99 - After Beyond (reaching faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar back) |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by emc^2
There's no way one can mistake Psy for Trance... Psy tends to be more darker, more trippy side of trance (faster too). |
I think of psy as trance all the time. But this is not a mistake, because psy is a kind of trance. This stupid shifting-around of genres and sub-genres that people do is annoying, where epic, big breakdown stuff is "just 'trance'" and everything else is "something else."
It seems what you really mean is "no one can mistake psy trance for '99 epic trance." Well, sure, that sounds accurate enough to me. |
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