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Cant figure out why we hate the middle east... (pg. 12)
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Psy-T
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Well if there is a threshold reading for homosexuality then im sure theres a point of no return. The body isnt all 0 and 1 but Im saying why cant it just be we dont have the understanding of biology to realize why its all deterministic? Why isnt this conversation we are having guaranteed by what has happened previously.


because the amount of variables is infinite, and because the past isn't the only determining factor of the future.
Clovis
Get back on topic you s. :p
Orbax
quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
the past isn't the only determining factor of the future.


Elaborate.
Psy-T
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Elaborate.


take a quantum particle for instance, let's say you know its entire history, it, even the entire history of everything. can you predict the particle's next position based on that?
Orbax
quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
take a quantum particle for instance, let's say you know its entire history, it, even the entire history of everything. can you predict the particle's next position based on that?


I could absolutely predict it.







I wouldnt be RIGHT but I could still predict :p


are you saying that the quantum mechanics of this universe are what allow us to have free will?
Psy-T
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
are you saying that the quantum mechanics of this universe are what allow us to have free will?


nope, just demonstrating one aspect of it with their help.
Orbax
Deep question:

If an omnipresent omni-observing being were to inhabit a universe...what would the ramifications be in regard to the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle.
wienerschnitzel
lol i used to have a sweet bumper sticker on my car that said "Heisenburg MAY have slept here.."
Orbax
NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD
wienerschnitzel
pfftt.. you know it.

Psy-T
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Deep question:

If an omnipresent omni-observing being were to inhabit a universe...what would the ramifications be in regard to the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle.


one of three things:
  • that god cannot logically exist
  • that quantum particles can not logically exist
  • that the uncertainty principle is false


shave it with a bit of Occam, and... ;)
Orbax
quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
one of three things:
  • that god cannot logically exist
  • that quantum particles can not logically exist
  • that the uncertainty principle is false


shave it with a bit of Occam, and... ;)


That doesnt make sense
Neither does that
or that

;)


and it was a "What if question" where all of the premises are true.
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